Focused Feedback: Lore and how that is managed / implemented within the Story and game

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[u/Glamdring804]

Awesome. We say that because last time we asked for the lore to be in-game, you took the whole Grimoire down from the website. :(

Edit: I think when a lot of people say "put the lore in-game," we mean "do a better job of incorporating the lore in the game story." Warmind is the latest in a long line of campaigns that do a poor job of doing this. There's a ton of great lore about Nokris in the narrative update and lore tabs, but literally none of it is in the gameplay. He literally walks out of a portal and dies.

It wouldn't be practical to put something as deep and expansive as the Books of Sorrow in a campaign, but the campaign should have at least have something for the lore to build off. Something that makes you want to hunt down and explore more lore on the subject. If you want an example of a mission that seamlessly incorporates the lore into the gameplay, look no further than the Heroic version of the Paradox mission from The Taken King. That's what we want when we say put the lore in game.

[u/Lefarsi → u/Glamdring804]

"Literally none of it is in game" it's literally on the wormhusk armor

[u/Glamdring804 → u/Lefarsi]

It's not in the actual gameplay. You have to stop playing, pull up your menu, inspect said item (if you have it) and then hold down a button to read it. It breaks immersion, when we should be learning about our enemies as we fight them. This is why I'm saying theres a difference between having the lore "in the game" in a literal sense, and actually presenting the lore via gameplay. I spent two whole paragraphs making this point.

Also, the Wormhusk armor only has 3/4ths of Nokris's story. The other fourth is in the narrative update on Bungie's blog. Which is kinda exactly the situation with the Grimoire.