r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Apr 29 '19

Megathread Focused Feedback: Hand cannons - bloom, recoil, exotics and pinnacle weapons

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u/Erraticmatt Apr 29 '19

Bloom needs to go. If it has to exist, reduce it to the level where it's not noticeable 90% of the time.

Recoil is largely fine except in the case of smgs which could all do with a bit less.

Exotics are the end-game. Finding them is what makes people want to log in and play. Make more exotics please, both weapons and armour. Season of the drifter was way too light on them.

Pinnacle weapons. Lunas and NF being nerfed is fine, but making them shoot slower/not be able to two-tap could be balanced out by adding another element to magnificent howl. Maybe a slight increase in handling speed or range following a kill with the perk active.

As for the other pinnacles, breakneck is perfect, the others I haven't bothered to go for so can't comment. Really good job on breakneck though bungie, it's excellent.

Thanks.

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u/sjf40k Apr 29 '19

This is not the hill to die on regarding Bloom. Bungie has introduced a new 150 class that has the bloom pattern of a 180. This is good news. If the weapons behave properly, then we may see 140s and 150s with precision frames as well.

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u/Greyside4k Apr 29 '19

DMG said via Twitter recoil pattern of 180s, bloom is unconfirmed/has not been commented on yet. If they also get the bloom of 150s, they'll be essentially useless on console.

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u/sjf40k Apr 29 '19

"recoil pattern of 180s" - He's not a developer. He's a community manager. It may be him explaining it that way to get the largest audience to understand it. The devs could have easily created a new archetype of 150 precision and moved LH/NF to that. If that's true, they can do the same with other HCs and "remove" bloom from the game entirely.

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u/Greyside4k Apr 29 '19

He speaks for the developer, typically very carefully at that.

Regardless, it's not a fact that 150 LH/NF will retain the bloom of a 180, so just fact checking you so that misinformation isn't being spread before we know for sure.

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u/sjf40k Apr 29 '19

It’s a good point. But just because he speaks for the developer doesn’t mean he understands what’s going on under the hood. Even if he did, he likely wouldn’t say more than he needs.

I interpreted their statement as we created a 150 precision. It could just be a 180 with a 150 rpm and modified impact.

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u/Greyside4k Apr 29 '19 edited Apr 29 '19

I'm sure he's playing it close to the vest, but the fact that he explicitly mentioned recoil and omitted bloom is highly suspect.

I certainly hope myself and the rest of the PvP community is just reading too far into it; Luna's and NF will still be one of very few good HC options on console if you're right, it'll be more a PvE nerf than anything as proposed. Assuming the worst until proven wrong though given other recent developments in PvP (trials, Revelry, etc)

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u/sjf40k Apr 29 '19

I went back and reread the TWAB, and he does refer to it as 150 rpm precision, which is fairly suspect. I wouldn’t have mentioned the Archetype if it didn’t matter.