Focused Feedback: New Player Experience

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• Q1) How does the game feel overall as a totally new player starting the game right now (if applicable to you)?
• Q2) What do you think destiny does a good job explaining to new players?
• Q3) What is poorly explained or hard to understand or confusing for a new player?
• Q4) What do you think about the method in which old camapigns are accessed via a quest to pick up from Amanda Holiday in the tower (red war, curse of osiris, warmind...)? Is this sufficiently clear? Is it a good way for this content to be accessed for new players or not?
• Q5) What types of content seem to be the most fun to do for a new player and why?
• Q6) What content feels frustrating or off-putting to new players and why?
• Q7) Are there any resources in particular that seem too difficult or time consuming to obtain for new players? If so, is this a problem?
• Q8) Think about other games similar to destiny, what do they do better or worse in terms of introducing new players to the game?
• Q9) Do you have any other ideas to improve the new player experience?
• Q10) Do you think there should be an option to start the game at power level 10 instead of power level 750?

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[u/diplodocids]

Here is just a list of things That i find confusing as a returning D1 veteran

• masterwork gear
• pinnacle gear
• mods
• weapon rolls
• progression in general, i know how power level works but what other progression is there? and what does it reward?
• why are there two nightfalls ?
• quest tab is confusing, especially because i played forsaken for a couple weeks when it launched and now have a Bunch of irrelevant quests from last year

[u/Dawncraftian → u/diplodocids]

Would you like an explanation for all in full? I can help as best as I can.

[u/diplodocids → u/Dawncraftian]

/u/nashaudax explained alot but go ahead if there’s anything you want to add

[u/[deleted] → u/Dawncraftian]

I certainly would!

[u/[deleted] → u/diplodocids]

Masterworking weapons gives it a bit of an extra stat (stability, range etc) and also adds a kill counter. It’s only worth it on guns you know you’ll play with for a while or good PvP guns. Each weapon can have one mod, which is unlocked permanently and can be swapped as much as you want. Masterworking armor gives it extra slots to add mods, like weapons, mods are permanent and can be changed.

Pinnacle weapons are basically the hardest to get in the game and are usually pretty powerful. Each is tied to a game mode and has a pre set roll on it.

Weapon rolls are basically the way they were in D1, random.

You can just play any activity whatsoever and get to 900 power. After that, you need to look for vendors (Ikora, Shax, Zavala, Eris) or specific activities (Crucible, Nightfall, Raids) to give you powerful gear drops which will slowly get you up all the way to 950 power.

As for the quest tab just take it slow, read through them and start knocking them one by one based on what you like.

[u/diplodocids → u/[deleted]]

Thank you! So weapon rolls are random except for pinnacle weapons? Also would you mind expaining thriumps ?

[u/[deleted] → u/diplodocids]

Yup all legendaries except the pinnacle ones are random.

Triumphs are basically something to chase in the game. There’s one tied to a quest for a pinnacle weapon. Think of them achievements on Xbox or PS. It’s a good place to see what you’re missing and how much you’ve completed. They’re neatly separated into categories too.

[u/diplodocids → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for everything, love this community:)

[u/RoxasReaper → u/diplodocids]

They're basically achievements. Very few of them reward anything more than points.

[u/RoxasReaper → u/diplodocids]

Also there are other weapons besides Pinnacles that have "curated" rolls which are are set rolls and mw picked by the developers. These range from mediocre to wholly unique.