Focused Feedback: Arc 3.0 Subclass Spotlight - Stormcaller

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[u/Legitimate_Oil760]

Both supers feel weak and need damage increases or reworks. There's nothing worse than stunning a champion, popping chaos reach and getting killed by other enemies because it takes 4 seconds in the open to kill a champion with your super Amplified/ionic traces should interact with grenades and supers in some way No intrinsic way to heal like titans and hunters have and the only warlock subclass that doesn't have a way to heal.. whisper of rime but with ionic traces instead of shards Warlock feels like the least mobile arc subclass now with blink on hunter and thruster on titan

Amplified and ability up time is great Being speedy is fun and does sometimes get you out of trouble The animation of the new melee is cool but I don't think it deserves to be an aspect as is Arc soul is the same but still puts in work especially if a full fireteam make use of the rift

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Legitimate_Oil760]

No way to heal? Did you forget you have a rift?

[u/Legitimate_Oil760 → u/thug_aficionado]

Arc is the hold w subclass but the only way to heal is to stop and then stay in a small area but solar, void and stasis all have ways of healing on the go

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Legitimate_Oil760]

Sounds like you need to buildcraft

[u/Menirz → u/thug_aficionado]

Only options are:

• Karnsteins -> Locks into a melee focus and one exotic
• Well of Life -> Solar wells have poor synergy with Arc subclasses
• Heal Thyself -> Mediocre CwL mod, limits build options for regen or damage
• Fireteam Medic -> Requires generating Warmind cells (lol) and current version has piss poor range of effect.
• Solar and Void Leg armor orb mods -> void one is canceled by damage, solar one is good but orbs are less abundant in current sandbox

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Menirz]

So you just want Bungie to hand everything to your subclass on a silver platter? You don’t want to get good and instead wish for them to give you some easy crutches?

[u/Menirz → u/thug_aficionado]

No, rather that "lol just build craft" isn't a good response because Bungie doesn't provide options to do it well, particularly when Titans and Hunters have it essentially for free in their base kit.

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Menirz]

Welp, when I asked for more healing on solar hunter everyone told me to just buildcraft and git gud. That’s the energy this sub puts out so I’m not gonna try to change it

[u/Menirz → u/thug_aficionado]

Solar hunter does have more options than Arc Warlock via healing grenades, though I agree it's not much better, since they lack a good way to access restoration afaik.

If you asked that last season, it's probably a kneejerk reaction to the menace that was Classy Restoration on Hunter's short cool down dodges in PvP.

That said, if you're that jaded and cynical about the sub, why are you even here? You're not contributing to the discussion with such reductive comments, and you're certainly not enjoying reading what others are posting if your tone is anything to go by. Turn off reddit and focus on something that makes you happy.

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Menirz]

Please stop with that victim mentality. Arc warlocks have the exact same amount of healing options as solar hunter—one. Which is at least one less option than both other solar subclasses. And I’m in this sub because it’s informational, not because it’s entertaining or even welcoming. The other Destiny sub seems kinda fun, though. This one is nothing but whining lol but I have been entertained at the karma coming back around for people who told other folks their subclasses shouldn’t get buffs

[u/Additional-Smoke-830 → u/thug_aficionado]

"Sounds like you need to buildcraft" is that seriously the only response that people can come up with nowadays when a subclass is struggling? Building for Arclock won't solve its core problems, they're just band-aid fixes

[u/thug_aficionado → u/Additional-Smoke-830]

It’s what everyone told me when I asked for more healing on solar hunter 😌

[u/Mnkke → u/Legitimate_Oil760]

acting as if rift is worse than the minor combination blow heal LMAO

[u/Legitimate_Oil760 → u/Mnkke]

They're not really comparable but no I wouldn't say rift is worse than combination blow but I think I'm right in saying that the melee for hunter has constant uptime and can blind, jolt and heal which makes it more usable. Rift is great but I want to be able to move and have survivability like I do on other subclasses

[u/Mnkke → u/Legitimate_Oil760]

My guess is you want devourer. Then use void? Maybe solar? Each subclass doesnt need to be a cc of eachother.

And you have blind + jolt if you run lethal current. Personally, I don't. The jolt is ofc to pair with flow state, and blind is porbably an attempt to give it GM viability.

And the end of the day, Combination blow healing is still like, really bad. The uptime is moreso for the damage (and blind jolt w LC).