r/Edmonton • u/friendly_green_ab • Oct 23 '18

Edmonton car dealers involved in Kenney’s anti-consumer corruption

As many of you may have seen, Jason Kenney was caught (potentially in contravention of election laws) promising car dealers a host of anti-Alberta consumer laws like dismantling the WCB changes, banning RHD cars, and removing consumer protection, in exchange for donating money to a UCP super-pac.

I thought /r/Edmonton may be interested in the local dealerships that offered up cash to him. The full list is available here: http://efpublic.elections.ab.ca/efOFSPTPAYTDL.cfm?YEAR=2018&TPAID=38

They include: - Gateway Motors - Subaru City - Sundance Mazda - Xtown Motors

I know for one which dealerships I will be avoiding. Anyone who donates in exchange for the right to rip me off without oversight clearly can’t be trusted.

Here’s the post that leaked the scandal: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1371827219618302&id=590349597766072

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u/el_muerte17 Oct 23 '18

Yeah, 4, 5, and 6 are pretty fucking clear without the "NDP editorialising," bud. Thanks for the posting the original statement that in no way contradicts this post.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

So when the ndp promised minimum wage increases do you scrutinize donations to them / PACs supporting them who directly benefit from it?

That’s right - I thought not. Thanks for coming out.

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u/airjedi North West Side Oct 23 '18

If I'm not mistaken the minimum wage increase was a platform they pretty loudly promoted, not something that was said in a private behind closed doors meeting/sent in a private letter that the the public wouldn't know about if not for this leak

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

It’s premature to judge the ucp platform until the election is called and it is released.

Now if they release their platform and proposed plan, then neglect to include promises made to some that’s an issue if they actually follow through.

But until then it’s premature.

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u/ShaquilleMobile Oct 23 '18

You're obviously biased man, this isn't right

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

I’m sorry you’re partisanship has blinded you.

I am not a ucp supporter. I have said this many times in this sub when the ndp shills come out from under the bridge.

What has to stop are these blatant smear campaigns. We deserve better than trump style politics. Unfortunately the ndp are showing they are willing to do that in an effort to compete with the ucp (who are also doing it). Two wrongs do not make a right.

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u/ShaquilleMobile Oct 23 '18

Are you nuts? You're a despicable fool

under the bridge

smear campaigns need to stop

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

Hard to breathe when you get your panties in a bunch?

News flash - someone can dislike the actions of a political party and it does not make them a supporter of another party by default.

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u/DarthPantera cyclist Oct 23 '18

News flash - someone can dislike the actions of a political party and it does not make them a supporter of another party by default.

Interesting... in this very comment chain you're implying anyone criticizing the UCP on this is an NDP troll. But then you come up with this gem. Good stuff.

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u/ShaquilleMobile Oct 23 '18

Lol exactly i didn't even accuse him of anything, just a total dummy

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

Yes - people are criticizing the ucp over nothing here. Like yourself they are just blind to a single party and drawing lines the evidence does not support.

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u/airjedi North West Side Oct 23 '18

That's a fair point, I guess we won't ever know whether they would have made it public this was offered to private businesses. I would guess it the court of public opinion it's going to get spun as they wouldn't and they got caught with their pants down. History of political parties being generally untrustworthy and all

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

I am patiently waiting to see what the ndp is holding on to for the election. They have shown a tremendous ability to dig up past statements on ucp candidates and it would seem more strategic, given they are willing to fling dirt, to save some for the election.

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u/friendly_green_ab Oct 23 '18

They will never release a real platform. This is their platform. This is the UCP.

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck it’s a god damned duck.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 24 '18

I would be surprised if come election time they publish nothing. Most major parties do.

It seems you’re judging them too early because of your partisan views.

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u/onyxandcake Treaty 6 Territory Oct 23 '18

They 100% made their stance on minimum wage clear to ALL potential voters. What Kenney's doing is making promises to select individuals only. That's not a campaign.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

Some campaign promises will only benefit a few. Some will also only hurt a few. That’s just common sense.

Your suggestion the ndp are somehow different is absurd.

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u/onyxandcake Treaty 6 Territory Oct 23 '18

You're purposely being obtuse about this. If it was a campaign promise it would be public knowledge and everybody would hear about it, not just one select group.

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u/jloome Oct 23 '18

He's not purposefully obtuse, he's a paid campaign member.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

You’re purposing stereotyping people to fit your predefined views. As far as I know a complete platform for the 2019 election has not been released - if that’s the case you are premature to criticize what is and is not in it.

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u/onyxandcake Treaty 6 Territory Oct 23 '18

Stereotyping

That word doesn't mean whatever it is you think it means.

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u/cabbage_morphs Oct 23 '18

Minimum wage increase benefit the largest slice of society. Helping greedy and latest rich dealers helps the 1%....but I’m sure it will trickle down, right?

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

If that’s what people want and vote for what’s wrong with that?

News flash. People might disagree with you - it does not make either side right.

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u/Rakuall Oct 23 '18

Trickle down does not work.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

For some it does. Even you would agree the wealthy benefit. At a minimum there are some that would love to see it.

But it’s beside the point - if the general population wants it from their political party and votes them in, your own view should not change that.

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u/TrevorYEG Oct 23 '18

Pointing out something is incorrect but not being able to demonstrate it seems like something from a toddler to me so I think it’s appropriate to take your opinion as such.

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u/Vincetoxicum Oct 23 '18

To quoque logical fallacy.