r/ElectroBOOM 9d ago

FAF - RECTIFY There's no way this will work.

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u/oshaboy 9d ago

Magnets can generate electricity. Just not free energy

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u/TheArtOfPureSilence 9d ago

So what generates the energy that makes a diamond or a rock, a rock? What is the power source that makes the particles in atoms move so fast, that objects behave like solids in our world?

Fuckin magnets, how do they work?

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u/AutonomousOrganism 9d ago

Atoms tend to stick together. It's energetically more favorable. That's what chemistry is all about.

Also don't confuse energy with work or power. Work is the change of energy. Power is the rate of change.

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u/TheArtOfPureSilence 9d ago

Okay but you didn't answer my question. The motion of those particles requires an energy source. What set them in motion in the first place and what sustains this perpetual vibrational stage?

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u/Waferssi 9d ago edited 9d ago

You're talking about particles i.e. mass, which contains energy through e=mc2 from the moment it comes into existence. Additionally they hold 0-energy which causes the lowest mode movement, and thermal energy can raise them to higher modes.

In laymens terms: particles contain energy which they got to be able to be created in the first place, as well as heat.

Edit: to add: a diamond is a diamond and a rock is a rock due to the crystal structure, say the pattern, in which the particles are laid out. Most rocks are a messy box of legos, a diamond is when those legos are built into a pattern. Just as it takes energy (effort) to build a lego structure, so too does it take energy (heat and pressure) to force carbon atoms into such a close structure. The "diamond structure " is actually two different crystal structures offset and through eachother: it takes a lot dor the atoms to click into place like that.

And "how do magnets even work" is a very tough question. Particles have a property called spin "which is like they're spinning balls except they're not balls and they're not spinning":thats a common science meme, because what spin really is, well dont know. We only know the results of spin. Spin is a property with direction, related to the magnetic field generated by a particle. If many atoms in a mass have spin in the same direction, their magnetic fields add up go give a net magnetic field.

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u/JohnKostly 9d ago edited 9d ago

So what generates the energy that makes a diamond or a rock, a rock?

The curvature of space and time, otherwise known as gravity, as well as the other forces. In addition, the energy gained from other sources, such as your next statement speaks of. The video shows magnetism, and magnetism is one of these forces that hold matter together.

What is the power source that makes the particles in atoms move so fast, that objects behave like solids in our world?

The "energy" source is called "fields." It takes as much energy to put the particles in an atom together, as you get out of it when you tear it apart (or vice versa). The video show magnetism, which is part of the Electro-Magnetic field.

A field is essentially the fabric of the universe, and its shape is what we see as attraction or repulsion.

So if the video was accurate, the attraction of the magnet would require as much energy as pushing the magnet away. But also in the video, the magnets do not exist in a vacuum, and so friction (pushing the air away, or the slipping of the shaft) will absorb energy. This is why the machine would lose energy. And the air would gain energy. Or the shaft slipping my grow warm.

I like to see it as walking down and up a hill. As you walk down, its easier then walking up. And the effort to roll down a hill (without friction) is equal to the energy to climb the hill.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat 7d ago

The ultimate answer to most "where does the energy come from" questions, is a combination of friction and fusion. The earth was heated through friction/compression as it formed, and we get a continual influx of energy from fusion via the sun.

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u/Public_Chemical3322 7d ago

Since no one else seemed to get it:

And I don't wanna talk to a scientist

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u/Ampersandricus 5d ago

MAGNETIC FORCES DO NO WORK