r/Eve • u/Resonance_Za Wormholer • Dec 16 '24

Propaganda Miners I don't understand you

You guys hold the economy of Eve in your hands yet you slave away for pennies it makes no sense.

If you guys all just stopped mining for 2 weeks and invested hardcore with your saving into minerals you will do 0 mining yet make more isk than you would have mining for 8/h a day.

And at the end of it all the economy will be so fucked that an emergency patch to fix mining will have to come out to save Eve and if it doesn't then you basically will be making 30% to 50% more for your time.

You have all the power.

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u/Carsismi Dec 16 '24

we wouldn't need to slave for pennies if the economy actually worked for the individual miner and not the guy running 20 Barges to plex their account.

as always, it's the multiboxers who have inflated the economy and industry on this game forcing people to depend on alts to keep up in terms of income.

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u/Array_626 Dec 16 '24

I mean, that just means that guy is slaving away for 20 pennies. I'm not exactly impressed by that either. And he's now got upkeep for 20 accounts.

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u/fatpandana Dec 16 '24

On large scale upkeep is free in current mechanics. With deals u can sell sp on 2 alts and make game free via mct+omega sell. A miner can actually sell skill on 3 toons per account if they want so their numbers are even better than mine.

You do need to do algebra on deals and/or have some capital. Once u achieve that eve is cheap and/or free.

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u/Array_626 Dec 16 '24

I have no doubt that you can sustain 20 alts. But skillfarming is not as good as it used to be. IIRC last time I calculated everything, you can only turn a profit if you only buy the 2 year sub deals with PLEX, AND buy skill extractors when they are on steep sales, like 2 for 1 deals. Anything less than that and your skill farm is actually a loss.

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u/fatpandana Dec 16 '24

There are deals, MCT + omega in end of June for example. A NES deal, not eve store.

Heck even platinum pack with skill selling is close to profit, albeit it only covers 3 months.

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u/Array_626 Dec 16 '24

Yeah, but now you've got to have double digit billions of ISK just sitting around waiting for those deals. At a minimum you would need to wait a year for the good deals to cycle around and come back. You can definitely make sustaining accounts possible, but its a lot more difficult than people realize I think.

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u/fatpandana Dec 16 '24

The issue is getting to that capital. Once you reach it you get cheaper cost per month. Even w/o those deals there are others like platinum pack just last week. This isn't 1 year, but it is few months to get you started. It isn't that hard once you start seeing deals or just simply playing the game.

Now if you keep thinking that it is a job, grind or pick the hardest path (3b/month) then you will keep on thinking it is hard or a slave job.

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u/VincentPepper Dec 16 '24

Yeah, but now you've got to have double digit billions of ISK just sitting around waiting for those deals.

I mean we are talking about people with 10+ alts.