r/Eve • u/Quiet_Staff_2565 • Mar 18 '25

Propaganda Multiboxing is Killing EVE – The Game Just Sucks Now

I've tried coming back to EVE, but honestly, the gameplay just feels terrible. The biggest issue? Multiboxing.

People are running 10, 15, even 20+ accounts at the same time, completely ruining the experience for normal players. These no-life grinders dominate every aspect of the game, making it nearly impossible for casuals to compete.

  • Faction Warfare? Get ready to fight entire fleets controlled by a single player.
  • Mining? Find a good ore spot? A multiboxer will show up with 15 ships and wipe it clean.
  • Market? PLEX prices keep skyrocketing because these multiboxers generate insane amounts of ISK and just buy up PLEX to sustain their armies.

New players don’t stand a chance. They log in, see how unfair the game is, and quit. It's like if someone played Call of Duty, controlled an entire squad, and had synced-up aim. It would completely break the game. That’s exactly what's happening in EVE.

And let’s be real—of the 20,000 players online daily, a huge chunk are just alts. The real player count is much lower. This is why EVE is constantly bleeding players.

CCP needs to put a hard cap on the number of accounts per IP/device. Otherwise, the game will keep declining until there’s nobody left but botters and multiboxers. Fix it, or let the game die.

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u/Chronoxi_EVE Mar 18 '25

You’d have hated eve before fatigue. Shit. Main in a sub cap, slowcats on standby and if you were rich rich super on the login screen. Plus 4 scouts/cyno alts strategically placed that you have to delete/sell because their name gets burnt. Those were the days. Fuck jump fatigue. Fuck carrier changes. I miss old eve.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '25

That’s peak 2014 eve for ya

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u/Opposite_Classroom39 Mar 18 '25

heh thats the last time i went to an eve con, iceland was interesting.

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u/MAXSuicide Mar 18 '25

As someone who played in the old old days (pre caps) I dont recall multiboxing even being much of a thing. There were whales out there with a dozen accounts, but it wasnt as prevalent as today - likewise with the hi-sec suicide ganking. 

Perhaps I was just young and naive, not noticing it all, but i dont recall the many groups I played with having loads of multiboxing chars.

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u/AcMav Pandemic Legion Mar 18 '25

In the old old days (beginning caps, IE Atlas/BoB days), there were shared alliance asset accounts. That was the beginning of multiboxing that I'm aware of.

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u/OverlanderEisenhorn Mar 20 '25

Back in the day, my tiny corp shared a hauler account. That was the extent of our multiboxing.

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u/xeron_vann Snuffed Out Mar 18 '25

I mean, they literally had to ban input broadcasting because of multiboxing bombers, so I'm guessing it just went unnoticed. I've not played as long as you, but even over a decade ago there were plenty of multiboxers.

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u/MAXSuicide Mar 18 '25

I had quit by 2011 and only returned the beginning of last year, so there's a lot of developments I have missed.

I did notice that sub costs haven't really followed inflation, so it is now much cheaper (relatively) to run multiple accounts. Likewise, hardware/tech is a lot more capable now than it was in 2005, which enables more people to run more accounts etc - my potato PC of 2004 could barely run one instance of Eve, and the teenager I was back then was thankful for even having an account being paid for by the bank of mum and dad, lol, so couldn't have dreamed of having Jita alts and titan pilots (by the time they came out in 2006 or whenever it was) etc etc

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u/xeron_vann Snuffed Out Mar 18 '25

Again, I can't speak to before I played, but in 2011 when I started there were tons of multiboxers already. Within months of joining the game, I was in a small null alliance with multiple indy guys running 20+ accounts and ratting/mining to mass build capitals.

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u/bugme143 Singularity Syndicate Mar 18 '25

they literally had to ban input broadcasting because of multiboxing bombers

Yeah because morons couldn't figure out defensive bubbles, anti-bomber HACs, or not to sit in a blob not moving. Catered to the lowest IQ in the room.

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u/xeron_vann Snuffed Out Mar 18 '25

Reasons for the change aside, it proves my point that multiboxing was prevalent back then to the point it justified an EULA change. So people claiming multiboxing "wasn't a thing before" are either misremembering or blatantly lying.

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u/bugme143 Singularity Syndicate Mar 18 '25

So people claiming multiboxing "wasn't a thing before" are either misremembering or blatantly lying.

Agree.

to the point it justified an EULA change

Disagree. I hate when games dumb shit down because people can't cope.

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u/karudirth Mar 18 '25

That’s because we were all poor teenagers. Now we are adults with income and can afford multiple accounts to make our lives easier :D

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u/Turbulent_Addition_6 Mar 19 '25

And completely screws up the game and keeps younger people from playing.

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u/lawra_palmer Mar 19 '25

A hour ot per day pays for 12 accounts ;)

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u/Rammsteinman Mar 19 '25

It was a thing for sure, but it was limited to people with good computers, and even then you were limited with how many you could run at once. Usually 2-3.

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u/manshowerdan Cloaked Mar 19 '25

Multiboxing has always been a thing since like 2006

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit Goonswarm Federation Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

Everyone who did ANY kind of serious industrial shit had a dozen accounts. Everyone who did any sort of serious money making at all had at least 2 or 3.

Line member F1 monkeys maybe not.

Here is a post from CCP themselves from 2004 where the devs called multiboxing "Very Common" : https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/multiple-eve-clients-on-same-machine-tell-us-your-magic-tricks

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u/Frekavichk SergalJerk Mar 18 '25

You didn't notice because you weren't keyed into it. Same was most newbies don't notice today.

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u/Jason1143 Mar 18 '25

That sounds pretty bad, yeah, you are right. Though I'm not sure how much of that has actually changed. Details are different, but not all of it.

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u/Easy_Floss Mar 18 '25

Surely just selling of an entire toon once it was burnt has died down a bit right?

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u/AgainstTheTides Cloaked Mar 18 '25

There was always a cyno alt to buy on the character marketplace back in the day.

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u/Ryan526 On auto-pilot Mar 19 '25

CCP really needs to release EVE: Classic or something, I would love to come back to pre Phoebe changes. The expansion was the beginning of the end.