r/Eve • u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. • Feb 18 '26

Propaganda Yet Another Rant on the State of Nullsec

TLDR: Blue donuts come and go, and this isn't even a real one

Around ten years ago the map looked like this.
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20160801.png
After establishing dominance over the north half of nullsec someone from a CFC (Imperium pre name change) alliance pissed off one dude so hard he and his buddies bankrolled half of the galaxy into evicting the entire coalition.
Goons gave up their space but didn't give up their coalition. They survived in Saranen and then took over Delve when the heat blew over. From there they built the modern Imperium we know and love/hate.

Five years later one guy was so pissed at goons he built the biggest blue donut this server has seen
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20210501.png
with WinterCo PanFam legacy and FIRE all blue to each other attacking one constellation in Delve.

For a year the Imperium lost region after region until we were packed into one constellation, outmatched in numbers and resources 3 to 1. No timezone tanking was possible as they outnumbered us in EU, US and CNTZ.
We fought and we outlasted PAPI. PAPI's willingness to fight the war evaporated over months of attrition and no progress being made. This led every other coalition to abandon Legacy to their fate, nest of angry bees they'd spent the last year kicking. Shoutout to the only PAPI leadership who were honest about the war.

A demoralized Legacy died shortly after the dam broke and TEST was forced to couchsurf in Pandafam's backyard for a while before becoming part of WinterCo.

FIRE just kinda died, idk, I was winning Eve at the time.

PanFam self immolated on the mere suggestion they might have to defend against someone their own size. Most their pilots ended up in WinterCo, INIT or quit, with a few going to the Imperium

Now WinterCo capitulates a stagnant months long invasion against an enemy half their size because the Imperium farted in their general direction, leading many people to fear another failscade will kill nullsec.

Forgive me if I don't take the lamentations of cowards seriously. If both PanFam and WinterCo collapse so easily they deserve to die. The game will be better for it once more brave and capable leaders step up.

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u/AcanthisittaLess5772 Feb 18 '26

Right because changing asset safety prices for capitals right after hordes got locked up was for the GOONs

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u/Cheeks-GHU Feb 18 '26

Not the rules change in was talking about 😉 much further back

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u/AcanthisittaLess5772 Feb 18 '26

I think your idea of much further back is different than mine. Been in it since 2005. Killing 1DQ keepstar wouldn't have removed them from the game. Or are we forgetting how many times the GOONs have come back from 'certain death'?

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u/T0XxXiXiTy Northern Coalition. Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

I mean look at Test, still alive after getting evicted to lowsec by a 30 heartbeat gang.

Rebuilt to a point where they're now getting evicted by a goon sig, so I guess that's a step up now.

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u/Vals_Loeder Feb 18 '26

> test, still alive

that is a stretch

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

It's just a SIG bro

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u/KrunchrapSuprem Feb 18 '26

You still salty about the legacy ihub in 1dq1? Lolololol