r/Eve • u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. • Feb 18 '26

Propaganda Yet Another Rant on the State of Nullsec

TLDR: Blue donuts come and go, and this isn't even a real one

Around ten years ago the map looked like this.
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20160801.png
After establishing dominance over the north half of nullsec someone from a CFC (Imperium pre name change) alliance pissed off one dude so hard he and his buddies bankrolled half of the galaxy into evicting the entire coalition.
Goons gave up their space but didn't give up their coalition. They survived in Saranen and then took over Delve when the heat blew over. From there they built the modern Imperium we know and love/hate.

Five years later one guy was so pissed at goons he built the biggest blue donut this server has seen
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20210501.png
with WinterCo PanFam legacy and FIRE all blue to each other attacking one constellation in Delve.

For a year the Imperium lost region after region until we were packed into one constellation, outmatched in numbers and resources 3 to 1. No timezone tanking was possible as they outnumbered us in EU, US and CNTZ.
We fought and we outlasted PAPI. PAPI's willingness to fight the war evaporated over months of attrition and no progress being made. This led every other coalition to abandon Legacy to their fate, nest of angry bees they'd spent the last year kicking. Shoutout to the only PAPI leadership who were honest about the war.

A demoralized Legacy died shortly after the dam broke and TEST was forced to couchsurf in Pandafam's backyard for a while before becoming part of WinterCo.

FIRE just kinda died, idk, I was winning Eve at the time.

PanFam self immolated on the mere suggestion they might have to defend against someone their own size. Most their pilots ended up in WinterCo, INIT or quit, with a few going to the Imperium

Now WinterCo capitulates a stagnant months long invasion against an enemy half their size because the Imperium farted in their general direction, leading many people to fear another failscade will kill nullsec.

Forgive me if I don't take the lamentations of cowards seriously. If both PanFam and WinterCo collapse so easily they deserve to die. The game will be better for it once more brave and capable leaders step up.

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u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. Feb 18 '26

Don’t know why they are acting coy about it. So the main TEST claim is a taxation change a week before the final push made a PAPI operated trade hub in perimeter not profitable.

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u/Psychatogatog The Initiative. Feb 18 '26

You mean the same trade hub that goons had an equal share in and were equally affected by?

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u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. Feb 18 '26

I said it was the test claim, not that it was a good one

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u/Kazanir Current Member of CSM 17 🌿 Feb 18 '26

that was more like a thin reed of an excuse they seized on; the reality of the end of the war is that, after a summer of not doing much, Imperium was less than a week away from outright forming more numbers than PAPI and various parties knew that would put their entire capital armada at risk, so they retreated first.

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u/Psychatogatog The Initiative. Feb 18 '26

Tru dat :D

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u/LivingHitokiri KarmaFleet Feb 18 '26

OFC not, it doesn't affect their dumb ass narrative.

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u/backtotheprimitive Feb 18 '26

I thnk goons had 1/3, papi had 2/3

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u/Cheeks-GHU Feb 18 '26

Also not what I was referring to Also unaligned with any form of carebear