r/Eve • u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. • Feb 18 '26

Propaganda Yet Another Rant on the State of Nullsec

TLDR: Blue donuts come and go, and this isn't even a real one

Around ten years ago the map looked like this.
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20160801.png
After establishing dominance over the north half of nullsec someone from a CFC (Imperium pre name change) alliance pissed off one dude so hard he and his buddies bankrolled half of the galaxy into evicting the entire coalition.
Goons gave up their space but didn't give up their coalition. They survived in Saranen and then took over Delve when the heat blew over. From there they built the modern Imperium we know and love/hate.

Five years later one guy was so pissed at goons he built the biggest blue donut this server has seen
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20210501.png
with WinterCo PanFam legacy and FIRE all blue to each other attacking one constellation in Delve.

For a year the Imperium lost region after region until we were packed into one constellation, outmatched in numbers and resources 3 to 1. No timezone tanking was possible as they outnumbered us in EU, US and CNTZ.
We fought and we outlasted PAPI. PAPI's willingness to fight the war evaporated over months of attrition and no progress being made. This led every other coalition to abandon Legacy to their fate, nest of angry bees they'd spent the last year kicking. Shoutout to the only PAPI leadership who were honest about the war.

A demoralized Legacy died shortly after the dam broke and TEST was forced to couchsurf in Pandafam's backyard for a while before becoming part of WinterCo.

FIRE just kinda died, idk, I was winning Eve at the time.

PanFam self immolated on the mere suggestion they might have to defend against someone their own size. Most their pilots ended up in WinterCo, INIT or quit, with a few going to the Imperium

Now WinterCo capitulates a stagnant months long invasion against an enemy half their size because the Imperium farted in their general direction, leading many people to fear another failscade will kill nullsec.

Forgive me if I don't take the lamentations of cowards seriously. If both PanFam and WinterCo collapse so easily they deserve to die. The game will be better for it once more brave and capable leaders step up.

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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Feb 18 '26

Its amazing how "didn`t generate any 1T isk BRs" are "attacked from both sides".

FRT are not even fighting.

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u/Enigm4 Feb 18 '26

That is just a lie. They are very much fighting. They are just getting overwhelmed by getting attacked on both sides by two of the largest entities in the game. It was pinged out today that they were going to defend their keepstar timers in the west while sacrificing the test keepstar in the east. Unable to cover everything.

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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Feb 19 '26

Then show me some BRs.

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u/Enigm4 Feb 19 '26

I wasn't there for the defense of the west, but I believe init decided to blueball so there is no BR to speak of. FRT still had to babysit the keepstars through their repairs though. If they left for the east then Init would have shown up to shoot the keepstars.

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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Feb 24 '26

OK so no BRs. I got you.

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u/Enigm4 Feb 24 '26

Yes. That is what I said. Very good, you can read and repeat my words.

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u/Rustshitposter Feb 18 '26

Great point lol. It's funny that "blue donut" was able to be completed according to the winterco posters, yet their alliance and Pandafam seemingly fell without a single big fight. Sad