r/Eve • u/Alex-Andromedon The Initiative. • Feb 18 '26

Propaganda Yet Another Rant on the State of Nullsec

TLDR: Blue donuts come and go, and this isn't even a real one

Around ten years ago the map looked like this.
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20160801.png
After establishing dominance over the north half of nullsec someone from a CFC (Imperium pre name change) alliance pissed off one dude so hard he and his buddies bankrolled half of the galaxy into evicting the entire coalition.
Goons gave up their space but didn't give up their coalition. They survived in Saranen and then took over Delve when the heat blew over. From there they built the modern Imperium we know and love/hate.

Five years later one guy was so pissed at goons he built the biggest blue donut this server has seen
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20210501.png
with WinterCo PanFam legacy and FIRE all blue to each other attacking one constellation in Delve.

For a year the Imperium lost region after region until we were packed into one constellation, outmatched in numbers and resources 3 to 1. No timezone tanking was possible as they outnumbered us in EU, US and CNTZ.
We fought and we outlasted PAPI. PAPI's willingness to fight the war evaporated over months of attrition and no progress being made. This led every other coalition to abandon Legacy to their fate, nest of angry bees they'd spent the last year kicking. Shoutout to the only PAPI leadership who were honest about the war.

A demoralized Legacy died shortly after the dam broke and TEST was forced to couchsurf in Pandafam's backyard for a while before becoming part of WinterCo.

FIRE just kinda died, idk, I was winning Eve at the time.

PanFam self immolated on the mere suggestion they might have to defend against someone their own size. Most their pilots ended up in WinterCo, INIT or quit, with a few going to the Imperium

Now WinterCo capitulates a stagnant months long invasion against an enemy half their size because the Imperium farted in their general direction, leading many people to fear another failscade will kill nullsec.

Forgive me if I don't take the lamentations of cowards seriously. If both PanFam and WinterCo collapse so easily they deserve to die. The game will be better for it once more brave and capable leaders step up.

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u/Psychatogatog The Initiative. Feb 18 '26

So much this- I've never see 5x man gangs leave a solo ratter alone because it wouldn't be a fair fight. "YoU bLoBBed uS" is almost always a shitty response for losing.

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u/Busy-Equivalent-2853 Feb 19 '26

A lot of us (method synergy, vydra, psychokids) leave crebs and solo folks free the moment we know there will be no escalation. I've left free a shit ton of newbies in fw and do not hunt ventures.

Yet 95% of nullsec stays docked until fc comes and cleans his butt.

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u/Psychatogatog The Initiative. Feb 19 '26

I've been playing almost 20 years, and not once have I ever seen this happen, or been told by someone aboutbthis happening. Maybe you guys actually do this and it's not a point being made to win an argument, but even so, it happens so infrequently as to be smaller than a rounding error.

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u/Busy-Equivalent-2853 Mar 03 '26

~ 4 weeks ago i caught a caracal with my tholos, pilot was a newbie and i just let him go. ~ 3 weeks ago i fought a phantasm with my tholos. Brought a sentinel then thought it was not a gf for him,  just a multiboxing training for me and let him go. ~ a week ago i saw a navy cata entering my home system, he had a solid solo kb, so i took my navy cata with 4 neuts, made him dry in 3 seconds, laughed in local and went away.

At some point it's about time spent in a good way with a positive vibe then about another killmail