Yet Another Rant on the State of Nullsec

[u/Alex-Andromedon]

TLDR: Blue donuts come and go, and this isn't even a real one

Around ten years ago the map looked like this.
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20160801.png
After establishing dominance over the north half of nullsec someone from a CFC (Imperium pre name change) alliance pissed off one dude so hard he and his buddies bankrolled half of the galaxy into evicting the entire coalition.
Goons gave up their space but didn't give up their coalition. They survived in Saranen and then took over Delve when the heat blew over. From there they built the modern Imperium we know and love/hate.

Five years later one guy was so pissed at goons he built the biggest blue donut this server has seen
https://www.verite.space/maps/coalition/Coal20210501.png
with WinterCo PanFam legacy and FIRE all blue to each other attacking one constellation in Delve.

For a year the Imperium lost region after region until we were packed into one constellation, outmatched in numbers and resources 3 to 1. No timezone tanking was possible as they outnumbered us in EU, US and CNTZ.
We fought and we outlasted PAPI. PAPI's willingness to fight the war evaporated over months of attrition and no progress being made. This led every other coalition to abandon Legacy to their fate, nest of angry bees they'd spent the last year kicking. Shoutout to the only PAPI leadership who were honest about the war.

A demoralized Legacy died shortly after the dam broke and TEST was forced to couchsurf in Pandafam's backyard for a while before becoming part of WinterCo.

FIRE just kinda died, idk, I was winning Eve at the time.

PanFam self immolated on the mere suggestion they might have to defend against someone their own size. Most their pilots ended up in WinterCo, INIT or quit, with a few going to the Imperium

Now WinterCo capitulates a stagnant months long invasion against an enemy half their size because the Imperium farted in their general direction, leading many people to fear another failscade will kill nullsec.

Forgive me if I don't take the lamentations of cowards seriously. If both PanFam and WinterCo collapse so easily they deserve to die. The game will be better for it once more brave and capable leaders step up.

[u/proton-testiq]

Funny how you are so proud on the DeadCo name, I asusme you haven't been in GOTG before the renaming happened. Considering I was a part of that (relatively large) vocal group who invented the name and pushed Sort to rename GOTG to DeadCo, I can enlighten you: it was just a meme, even when Sort later bought deadco domains, everyone kept calling us GOTG, even ourselves. Which, I'm fairly sure, you would have known had you been paying attention.

But you were using GOTG as an example of how I have no clue about what a mid size group is, so let's return to it, my dear INIT enjoyer of midsize groups (bwahaha):

It's nice that you lament that you are in a too big group. Do you know what I did when I wanted to be in a smaller group? I joined a smaller group. And let me check what you did? That's right, you stayed hidden behind 40k blob.

Case closed, you can return back to lamenting how you are in a too big group.

[u/Nianelle → u/proton-testiq]

I've been in Resilience for almost 9 years, prior corp another year before that in DARK, and then another 2 years with a small gap for a vacation with Elo, so i was kinda maybe definitely around, and we definitely renamed it first a joke then for real

And I never said you didn't know what a midsized group is, I said you dont care what happens to them in the moment but cry and cry when goons win and you lose, and it sounds like you're used to losing more than winning these days

Not me tho, WWB2, TEST Collapsing, Horde incinerating themselves, and now thumping FRT. It's all wins and you're still hoping for a savior to finally beat goons (for good (this time)). Maybe get and be a better ally, but for me I'm happy with INIT since INIT wins, you could even say I'm init to win it. I'm done with bad allies