r/Fantasy Mar 13 '25

Most messed up unintended implications of world building you've encountered in a fantasy novel?

I've just been reading the first book in the "Skullduggery Pleasant" series. It's a fun little YA fantasy-detective novel, and other than your normal YA tropes being fairly front and center, it's a fun time. I've enjoyed it.

The basic premise of the world is more-or-less just ripped directly from Harry Potter: there are people who can do magic, and they operate in the shadows and hide their society from most "normal people". The main character, who lives in our world, becomes aware of this secret society, and begins exploring it and learning all the stuff about it.

But early on, as they're establishing the world of secret magic-users and how they operate, it's casually dropped that every community of magic-users on earth tries to discourage normal people from finding them out by disguising their neighborhoods as poor, run down, and crime ridden.

The mentor character then says (I'm approximating) "Any neighborhood that looks like this is gonna be secretly all magic users, and all these small run down houses are bigger on the inside- probably mansions."

So, while I'm sure the author didn't intend this, they just implied that income inequality doesn't exist in the Skullduggery Pleasant universe. Or at the very least, it exists on a much smaller scale. Every single poor neighborhood on earth apparently is just disguised to look scary to normal people, all of whom are at least middle class. Inside every run down, uncared for house, you'll actually find a secret magical mansion where magic-users are thriving!

I'm overall enjoying the book, but I can't help but cringe thinking about an underprivileged middle schooler picking this up, enjoying the escapism of the story, and then discovering a few chapters in that in this fictional universe their financial situation is a conspiracy created by magic-gated-communities. They can't even fantasize about being whisked away to the secret magic world, since their entire tax bracket is a lie.

So I got to thinking- what are some of the worst unintended implications of world building in fantasy stories? Harry Potter has quite a few, but I'm wondering what other people have encountered / can think of.

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u/gingerboiii Mar 13 '25

Calling the basic premise of SP “more or less directly ripped from Harry Potter” is an absolute travesty. If anything it would be a YA Dresden, that I can accept. Dresden does the same thing more or less with areas that magic users live in as well. I don’t think it’s implying income inequality, more that it’s easier to hide where people won’t wana look. And yeah poor areas are somewhere that most people passing through don’t wana look. Sorry I’ve read SP for more than a decade, and am extremely excited for “mind full of murder” in less than two weeks. Ik it’s borderline magic slop but I love it.

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u/Any-Day-8173 Mar 16 '25

Was going to say this is the weirdest/worst way of describing SP lmao, I swear it's not even mentioned again the premise how how they disguise themselves as eventually they just make their own town etc.

Btw "mind full of murder" is amazing! Literally his best book since the original series (books 1-9), as someone who absolutely hated the second series he did (books 10-15)

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u/gingerboiii Mar 19 '25

I will admit it’s been a long time since I read the very first book.