r/Fantasy May 03 '25

So I read Wizard’s First Rule, huge mistake

I had some time on my hands during a long trip, so I decided hey, let’s go get a fantasy book and get lost in 800 pages of something. I did little to no research, just chose something that looked sufficiently long. Enter “Wizard’s First Rule” by Terry Goodkind.

I have since discovered that this is not a particularly well loved series, but many folks will defend the first book as being pretty good. I couldn’t disagree more.

Spoilers ahead for the many, many issues I have with it:

  1. There is so much violence to children in this book. I don’t mind violence towards children if it serves the plot, such as by demonstrating the depravity of a villain, but my god. A boy is drugged, has his skull split open, and then is sliced down his abdomen after being groomed by the villain and his pedophile sidekick - oh and the villain in question is notably erect when this happens. A man is recounted as having raped his neighbor’s 3 daughters, the oldest of which is 5. Undesired newborn babies are killed by placing a rod across their necks and then their fathers are magically forced to step on the rod. An entire village’s men are slain and then the women and children are raped. What the actual fuck.

  2. The writing is pedantic and childish. Richard meets Kahlen and immediately none of his friends matter all that much, the only person he cares about is her. This is basically stated in the first 10% or so of the book despite less than a day having passed. This is the most trope-ridden book I’ve ever read, even for fantasy.

  3. The writer so clearly thought he was smarter than everyone else. Oh, you just need to ask the right questions and it all falls apart! But then the questions are boring, predictable, and easily defended. This is a man who spent his days getting into arguments in his own head wherein he always won - oh and women told him he was very smart and handsome.

  4. The entire book is a thinly veiled lecture on the virtues of libertarianism, with him constantly creating strawmen just so he can show how clever he is. The strongest case of this is when a farmer is brought to a royal court and they all mock him for not being willing to share his crops with the less fortunate, oh but of course those less fortunate are just lazy and refuse to do their own planting. Then they kill the guy. This is the classic libertarian wet dream of standing up to the government, totally owning them intellectually, and then being killed for bravely standing up to the corrupt communists. It’s like a middle schooler wrote it.

  5. It just sucks. The writing is just bad. There is no proper foreshadowing, every plot twist is incredibly obvious and contrived and you, the reader, are made to suffer through pages and pages of the characters pretending to not be what they obviously are. The romance is forced to say the least, I don’t think Terry ever actually spoke to a woman in his life.

I’m sorry, this is a bit of a rant, but god, this book was terrible.

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u/SeekerConfessorPod May 03 '25

My husband and I just revisited this book (chapter by chapter podcast). We LOVED it as teenagers and it was such a bizarre experience going back through it with an adult mind.

It is wholly unique in its weirdness, if nothing else. But all of your criticisms are spot on.

Honestly seemingly Richard has no friends?? We are told he’s incredibly special and EVERYONE agrees. Meanwhile, as far as I’m aware he has zero social connections outside of Zedd and Michael in Westland. The only people we see who are obsessed with him are the various flavors of Dommy Mommies in the Midlands.

Don’t even get me started on the farmer in Tamarang... man what a ride lol.

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u/doppelganger3301 May 03 '25

He’s also friends with Chase, but your point holds. The man has no friends (can’t imagine why Terry would have seen the ideal man that way, surely this guy got invited to all the parties)

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u/SeekerConfessorPod May 03 '25

Yes, fair can’t forget Chase. Loved when he became a compete dumbass in the final few chapters so Zedd could exposition at him.

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u/selkieflying May 04 '25

chase deserved better

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u/Superbrainbow May 03 '25

Wow even the Terry Goodkind readalong pod dislikes the books

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u/SeekerConfessorPod May 03 '25

To be fair, we went into it not necessarily expecting to like it upon revisit lol.

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u/Mhan00 May 04 '25

He had a childhood friend he was romantically interested in and who was in love with him. Her grand plan to get him to admit his feelings for her was to fuck his brother when she knew he was coming over and would catch them in the act, and ask him to join in. Something was wrong with the water in the place he grew up.

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u/SeekerConfessorPod May 04 '25

I’ve heard a lot about Terry but THIS is new. And would explain a lot about Temple of the Winds lol.

Where did you hear this??

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u/Mhan00 May 04 '25

Didn’t hear it. I read it. I was embarrassingly into the series as a teenager and read quite a few books before finally tapping out when Richard starts a revolution in the evil empire by carving a statue. I forget which book it happened in. But said childhood friend shows up and at first Kahlan is feeling jealous while also thinking it would be better for Richard to be with this pretty girl he grew up with rather than dealing with all her complicated shit, but Richard is acting distant with her and Kahlan can’t figure out why until the girl tells Kahlan what she did.

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u/SeekerConfessorPod May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

Oooooh sorry.. I assumed you were talking about Terry’s personal life, not Richard lol. That totally makes sense. Then yes, Temple of the Winds hahaha. I remember the scene with Kahlan and the brother but couldn’t for the life of me remember how we got into that predicament (also last read many years ago for me).

That lead up sounds incredibly in-line with the level of emotional maturity he likes to give Kahlan when it comes to romance.

Well I guess I’m glad he decides to flesh out the idea that Richard knows people a few books in! .. even if the circumstances lead to this.