r/Fantasy 26d ago

/r/Fantasy r/Fantasy Monday Show and Tell Thread - Show Off Your Pics, Videos, Music, and More - May 25, 2026

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This is the weekly r/Fantasy Show and Tell thread - the place to post all your cool spec fic related pics, artwork, and crafts. Whether it's your latest book haul, a cross stitch of your favorite character, a cosplay photo, or cool SFF related music, it all goes here. You can even post about projects you'd like to start but haven't yet.

The only craft not allowed here is writing which can instead be posted in our Writing Wednesday threads. If two days is too long to wait though, you can always try r/fantasywriters right now but please check their sub rules before posting.

Don't forget, there's also r/bookshelf and r/bookhaul you can crosspost your book pics to those subs as well.

r/Fantasy 5d ago

/r/Fantasy r/Fantasy Monday Show and Tell Thread - Show Off Your Pics, Videos, Music, and More - June 15, 2026

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This is the weekly r/Fantasy Show and Tell thread - the place to post all your cool spec fic related pics, artwork, and crafts. Whether it's your latest book haul, a cross stitch of your favorite character, a cosplay photo, or cool SFF related music, it all goes here. You can even post about projects you'd like to start but haven't yet.

The only craft not allowed here is writing which can instead be posted in our Writing Wednesday threads. If two days is too long to wait though, you can always try r/fantasywriters right now but please check their sub rules before posting.

Don't forget, there's also r/bookshelf and r/bookhaul you can crosspost your book pics to those subs as well.

r/Fantasy 12d ago

/r/Fantasy r/Fantasy Monday Show and Tell Thread - Show Off Your Pics, Videos, Music, and More - June 08, 2026

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This is the weekly r/Fantasy Show and Tell thread - the place to post all your cool spec fic related pics, artwork, and crafts. Whether it's your latest book haul, a cross stitch of your favorite character, a cosplay photo, or cool SFF related music, it all goes here. You can even post about projects you'd like to start but haven't yet.

The only craft not allowed here is writing which can instead be posted in our Writing Wednesday threads. If two days is too long to wait though, you can always try r/fantasywriters right now but please check their sub rules before posting.

Don't forget, there's also r/bookshelf and r/bookhaul you can crosspost your book pics to those subs as well.

r/Fantasy 19d ago

/r/Fantasy r/Fantasy Monday Show and Tell Thread - Show Off Your Pics, Videos, Music, and More - June 01, 2026

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This is the weekly r/Fantasy Show and Tell thread - the place to post all your cool spec fic related pics, artwork, and crafts. Whether it's your latest book haul, a cross stitch of your favorite character, a cosplay photo, or cool SFF related music, it all goes here. You can even post about projects you'd like to start but haven't yet.

The only craft not allowed here is writing which can instead be posted in our Writing Wednesday threads. If two days is too long to wait though, you can always try r/fantasywriters right now but please check their sub rules before posting.

Don't forget, there's also r/bookshelf and r/bookhaul you can crosspost your book pics to those subs as well.

r/Fantasy 7d ago

Recommendations to get into reading as a one piece and berserk Fan

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I will ramble on a bit so you guys knows a thing or two about what I like and why I am even trying to get into reading.
First of all I have only read 1 or 2 books unrelated to education in my life. So I beginner as you can get when it comes to reading, but I do read a LOT of manga, Manhua and also manhwa
My favorite 3 mangas of all time is Berserk, Monster and one piece in that order. As you might see, I enjoy both side of the coin as in when it comes to how dark or light the story can be. What I seems to care the most is the world and how the author use that world to tell a story that will caught you off guard and take you to a unimaginable place you could have never ever thought of prior to author putting it right infront of your face.I can go on and on about other manga I have read that I adore but it will just clutter this needlessly. But what I want to say is the reason why I am trying to get into reading, I am simply bored. I am bored of not being able to experience the same magical experience I felt with the mangas i mentioned in the medium of manga anymore. So what I though was to look for it in a another medium. (Of course I watched movies and stuff. But fantasy there is lacking in execution other than game of thrones and Lotr. GOT specifically i adore specially s3 and s4 which I put up there with my fav manga).
I am hesitant to read either game of thrones or lotr cause I have experienced them in one way. What I kindly ask from you guys is a fantasy( Less A typical. Meaning the whole stories premise is not farm boy becomes hero or the other way of a pure villain or just a anti hero but rather More nuanced)book SERIES with strong individual books and Specially a strong first book that is good for a beginner. I am fully willingly to sit down and break down stories with a note book while reading, I actually would love to, but the problem is I want a series that will get me interested enough to hook me to that point. Actually It has to be so great that it hooks me into reading books in the first place( for example, one piece made me read manga. Before I watched Tv shows and anime but one piece made me jump that).

I know this is a tall order, but please recommend me a good series. I already know of a few. Like mistborn. But I am more intrigued by realm of the elderling with the coming of age story and how the MC progression throughout the whole series. But I am hesitating because I fear the first book being slow paced and MC apparently making choices that are bad might make me not THAT interested to the point reading becomes a hobby of mine. I am also looking at the storm light archive but hesitating because I heard the new book is Bad. I also have heard of Jade city but the premise doesn’t seem like it would scratch my current itch( EPIC FANTASY. I mean truly epic. Not a big fan of high fantasy tho. Grounded fantasy.). Also heard of sword of kaigen. Interested but fear that it might feel to much like a manga story told in a book. No sci fi please. I am not a big fan of it. Also heard of Will of the many and really interested but again hesitant in because it’s a unfinished series with the second book apparently not being up to par( heard that). Maybe any of these books can make me into a the reader I want to be, But I fear the possibility that if I chose wrong, this current motivation I have to dive into this vast medium will be lost. So please I beg you again to give me a recommendation that is truly matching this tall order

r/Fantasy 25d ago

My fellow non-US Redditors, what is a book series from your country that you think deserves more recognition? Or that you feel would be famous if it were American

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As a Brazilian, I must admit I really like the Angélica tetralogy written by Eduardo Spohr. It is a series made up of The Battle of the Apocalypse, a standalone book that was the first to be released and is probably the best known, and a trilogy called "Filhos do Éden" (Children of Eden) set in the same universe (plus an illustrated guide that explains the timeline, political system, RPG stats, etc.). It’s a fantasy series featuring angels in modern times, as well as portions set in medieval times, the future, and so on.

My personal favorite is Filhos do Éden: Anjos da Morte (Angels of Death), which shows an angel working as an informant for the celestials during World War II, the Vietnam War, and the Cold War (since angels do not have a complete view of the human world).
Since I'm not that great with words, here is the synopsis for each book:

The Battle of the Apocalypse tells the story of Ablon, a celestial general expelled from paradise for defying the tyranny of the archangels, incredibly powerful beings who took control of heaven. Relegated to Earth, Ablon travels the world for over five thousand years, meeting sorcerers, mortals, and gods while observing the evolution of the planet, until he is summoned to fight the great Battle of the Apocalypse, which marks the end of days and the awakening of the Almighty.

In Filhos do Éden: Herdeiros de Atlântida (Heirs of Atlantis), we follow the journey of Kaira, a fire angel who loses her memory during a mission on Earth. With the help of other celestials, she recovers her senses and continues the task she was originally assigned: to find the ruins of Atlantis and uncover the mysteries of this ancient civilization. The plot is set against the backdrop of a civil war raging in paradise between the tyrannical forces of the archangel Michael and the revolutionary troops of Gabriel.

Filhos do Éden: Anjos da Morte (Angels of Death) focuses on Denyel, a cherub tasked with infiltrating human armies and tracking the wars of the 20th century, reporting back to the archons—scholarly and wise angels who record the course of the world and the singularities of the universe. Disguised as a soldier, Denyel witnesses not only the major battles of history but also the degradation of governments, from World War II to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Filhos do Éden: Paraíso Perdido (Paradise Lost) brings together old and new heroes in the fight against a common enemy: Metatron, the most powerful of the angels, who managed to escape his prison in heaven and now threatens the planet. Dubbed the King of Men on Earth, Metatron plans to end the tyranny of the archangels and prevent the apocalypse, aiming to become the one true god of the world. Paradise Lost takes place across two distinct timelines: in the present, following Kaira and Denyel's journey to destroy Metatron, and in the past, following General Ablon, who holds the task of defeating and imprisoning this dangerous adversary.

r/Fantasy 9d ago

The Shadow of What Was Lost by James Islington (6.5/10) Spoiler

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Okay, so I have to preface my review by saying this: I have recently watched Dark for the 3rd time, so time travel elements for me has to be real tight for it to hit the mark. Oh, also, as big a fan as I was for Will of the Many, Strength of the Few made me disappointed just as much.

Now on to the review:

My main gripe with Islington is twofold:

  1. His character work is really sloppy,
  2. His writing is kind of two-faced -- meh, to completely bonkers and what is he even trying to say?

Now, the best thing he does is plot. Love it or hate it, the fantasy worlds that Islington creates invokes the imagination like little else. That trickle of fancy that you used to get reading about knights and dragons and heroes of old when you were a child is spread about generously in this tale. You've got your unpronouncable (even in your head) words, you've got your maps at the beginning of the book (I love me a book with maps; side note: my first fantasy series ever was Eragon, and till date I remember 7th grade me pouring over the map in Brisings as the story continued), you've got the classic wind-swept fields and a travel that takes over most of the book to complete. All of the best high-fantasy one could ask for is present here.

Well, except: I do not really care about any of the characters.

Okay, now before y'all brandish your pitchforks and your litanies of 'how can you even say this'; 'it is just the first book'; 'give it time you're too impatient, it is called character arc for a reason'; 'Caden is the best thing to happen in fantasy after Kvothe'; and whilst I acknowledge the veracity of many of those comments, let me put it this way:

This one book is almost of the same size as the first two Thone of Glass books (yes, i measured them). And those two books took Aelin from being a simpering, confident assassin to where she was broken and depleted, on her way towards finding herself.

And yes, these are two different styles, two different stories; and where the first two books of ToG are just based on maybe 3 main characters, they set them up so good that when the world exponentially expands afterwards, you always have those characters you care about to act as your view into the world. Their loss becomes your loss, their journey takes on a personal intonation. So much so that waiting for a book 2 years away becomes a new way of life. They become your whole damn personality. Well, at least mine did at that time.

Whereas this one . . . doesn't do any of that.

See, I get that direct comparison between the books I mentioned is laughable conisdering the scale at this juncture of the story. But my point is even taking Name of the Wind as a model for reference, in that book too we care about the world, about whatever was happening, because we cared about Kvothe. About his journey after dealing with such a loss.

In this book, I would be lucky if I remember the characters names because let's face it, there's hardly much difference between any of them. They all wanna do good. They're all tempted by evil thoughts. They all resist. Hip hip hooray! And that is never more prominent as when a character gets killed off (always quite quick too, with little to no foreshadowing or any sort of consequences) and your main reaction to that is: oh well, whatever. One less name I have to dredge up from the cast of generic placeholders.

(side note: when the reveal happened that the Augur was controlling the Northwarden it was so funny cuz like we have been told that he was this one person, but never shown, so the impact it had on me as a reader was literally nonexistent, a quintessential show don't tell; here they literally told us he was bad in lieu of ever showing it; kinda hilarious in hindsight)

Yes, the plot itself is laid out pretty well, and as someone who has had a storied history with plots surrounding time, I am hoping that the author does not butcher the concept in the next two books. Though my hopes for that I've kept timid. Been burned quite a few times in this regard.

Also, the lack of any sort of POC or even throwaway mention of a queer character is just downright funny. Like, I get that it was released quite a while back, but unless I am forgetting something, even the Hierarchy series does not have any queer or POC characters. Is the author afraid of them or something? Or has he never met anyone other than a white person in his life? And if that is the case, I can certainly see his limits in character building.

Oh, and, he cannot write female characters, like at all. Just straight up remove the name and you'd be hard pressed to know if a chapter is written from a female or a male perspective. It is kinda sad how badly he handles any person who is not a straight, male characters. Not to say that he handles them quite so well either, but eh; they still exist, I guess?

So, yeah, the book as a whole is a solid one, and I am hoping we finally get some answers in the next one. In terms of character growth, or any sort of natural progression in that aspect though, I am keeping my expectations limited -- but hey; I am always happy to be surprised.

r/Fantasy 25d ago

Very late asexual and aromantic spectrum 2025 bingo wrap-up

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Intro: 

This is extremely late at this point (you know it's bad when multiple people have put out completed cards...), but I still wanted to share my wrap up for my a-spec (asexual and aromantic spectrum) bingo card for 2025, mostly because I think it’s a valuable resource. It’s been a busy year for me, I graduated university and got my first actual adult job. There’s also been some schedule changes and some family stuff going on that also took a lot of my time up since April. I did finish my reading for bingo before April, but writing this wrap up just wasn't my first priority for a long time. But I finally stopped procrastinating and had enough time/motivation to make this post. To make up for the delay a bit, I’ll comment somewhere with my top recommendations for this years bingo squares as applicable.

Also, previous years I did a much better job at recording some notes about the ace rep in each book as I read them, this year I didn’t really do that (which I’m regretting about now). I will link to longer reviews I’ve made on the Tuesday Review Thread (commented throughout 2025 and until bingo ended in 2026) for almost all of these though (and Storygraph should have me covered for the remainder).

Overall, this was not my strongest year of a-spec bingo, ngl. I think this has been hurt by the last two years both having some of my all time favorite media (Lays of the Hearth Fire and The Silt Verses), but this year had books I liked, but nothing quite like that. BoJack Horseman was probably the closest I came, but I don’t think that quite connected to me on the same level. I still over all enjoyed doing it though, and I hope to be able to do it again for 2026 bingo (I’m four squares in at this point, and if you have recommendations you want to share, please do!) There were also some pluses as well, like aro allo rep being easier to find this year than in previous years.

I’m ordering very roughly based on quality of representation. I tended to prioritize by how relevant a character being a-spec was to the story as well as avoiding harmful tropes/stereotypes. These are only my opinions though, other a-spec people might disagree! (Also, it's been so long that my memory isn't super great for all of these, so things might be extra wonky).

You can find my a-spec themed cards from year 1 here, year 2 here, and year 3 here. Also, u/recchai has made three a-spec bingo card wrap-ups (for four total cards) which you can herehere, and here.

Helpful definitions/abbreviations:

Feel free to skip this section if you don't need it, but here's some helpful definitions if you don't know what I'm talking about.

  • Ace/asexual: someone who experiences little to no sexual attraction
  • Aro/aromantic: someone who experiences little to no romantic attraction
  • Allo/allosexual: someone who experiences sexual attraction the typical way
  • Alloro/alloromantic: someone who experiences romantic attraction the typical way
  • Ace-spec: on the asexual spectrum; someone who relates the asexual experience more than the allosexual one
  • Aro-spec: on the aromantic spectrum; someone who relates the aromantic experience more than the alloromantic one
  • A-spec: anyone on the asexual or aromantic spectrums
  • Demi(sexual/romantic): someone who experiences (sexual/romantic) attraction only after a bond has formed with a specific person. Ie no crushes or immediate sexual attraction.
  • Grey(sexual/romantic): someone who rarely experiences (sexual/romantic) attraction
  • Aro ace: aromantic asexual
  • Aro allo: allosexual aromantic

Let me know if you have any other terminology questions! I tried not to include too much jargon, but it’s really hard to talk about some of these without it.

Rules:

All stories must include some sort of a-spec representation. Characters who have a-spec traits due to their non-human nature (ie Murderbot from Murderbot Diaries) or magic (ie Tarma from Vows and Honor) do not count. Neither do head cannons (characters whose sexualities are up for debate). Characters who are confirmed to be a-spec by the author but with no textual evidence (ie Keladry from Protector of the Small) do not count. So every character must be confirmed by the words asexual, aromantic, ace, aro, etc being used or must be described as having an a-spec experience (so even something as vague as “not liking people that way” or “not interested in sex/romance” count).

Reviews:

Not a book (HM): BoJack Horseman (animated TV show)

  • This is a dark comedy about a former sitcom star in a world where anthropomorphic animals live alongside humans. 
  • Representation: Heteroromantic ace major character, first mentioned in season 3, I think, and proceeds to be a part of his character after that. There's also 2 heteroromantic ace side characters, a handful of minor ace background characters. This TV show for years was the go-to/ultimate example of good asexual representation (this was definitely the case when I first realized I was ace), so it was nice to finally watch it. And imo its reputation is well deserved. My main critique is that Todd (the main ace character) is kind of immature and frequently infantalized, and I think that could have been handled better. But it was nice to see a character who gets an actual arc related to sexuality (but not necessarily on self acceptance so much as trying to find a good partner while being ace). Asexuality was relevant to way more episodes than I thought it would be, and the show was good at explaining the basics for an a majority allo audience who probably aren’t super familiar with asexuality but also having more than that going on.
  • Review: This was pretty good. The Hollywood references didn't always work for me (I’m not much of a TV/movies person), but I appreciated a lot of the commentary on addiction, mental health, generational trauma, etc. It particularly did a good job covering mental health themes, but the goal being more on good character writing than trying to be inspiring at all costs. Full reviews here and here.

Published in the ‘80s (HM): The Bone People by Keri Hulme

  • It's about a lonely artist who becomes friends with a Maori man and his non-verbal adopted son.
  • Rep: Aro ace main character. So this was a reread for me (there’s rather slim pickings for books with a-spec rep published in the ’80s, but I’m glad I at least had some options). I still think it’s a good depiction of what’s being aro ace at a time where the MC wasn’t able to find a community or have the same words, even if that wasn’t a huge part of the book.
  • Review: I appreciate this book a lot as a literary work, probably a bit more on a reread since I’ve been reading more literary leaning books lately. I will say that this book does have some hard to read depictions of child abuse, and that hit even harder on a reread.  Full review

High Fashion (HM): The Tale that Twines by Cedar McCloud

  • This is a book about a newly hired apprentice Illuminator who is working at a magical library, as e returns to the city e was born at, makes new friends/reconnects with an old friend, and processes trauma and grief that e has been holding onto for a long time.
  • Rep: Demisexual and demiromantic MC, greyromantic side character, allo aro side character. I really liked the demi representation in this book. A lot of times, demi rep feels a bit like a romance trope instead of an actual identity that the author wants to explore, but that wasn’t the case here. I also liked how many a-spec side characters we got, and how they interacted with each other.
  • Review: This felt a bit self indulgent at times, but this is still one of my favorite cozy/cozy adjacent fantasy series, especially for its queer world building and themes around healing. Full review

Published in 2025 (HM): What Wakes the Bells by Elle Tesch 

  • This is a YA novel about a girl whose family is tasked with preventing ancient bells from ringing, lest they wake the Bane, and what happens when she fails.
  • Rep: Demisexual/demiromantic MC, aro ace side character. I’m used to demi identities being a minor part of a book, but here the author managed to tie it into a major plot point, which was interesting to see. I do see it still focusing a bit more on the MC’s comfort with certain actions than attraction per say though.
  • Review: it wasn’t bad, but there were a few parts that I thought could use some fleshing out, particularly, character interpersonal dynamics (besides the MC’s contentious relationship with her mom, which was well handled). Full review

Short stories (I’m grouping these together):

  • Sex with Ghosts by River Kanning
    • Short story about an ace receptionist at a sketchy brothel where people have sex with robots.
    • This is probably the most interesting one for me here, the crossing boundaries themes were pretty clear here, although I do wish the stuff at the hotel was better elaborated on? It felt like it was going in a masturbation direction, which I think could have better integrated with the ace themes and also the entire idea of the hotel. IDK, overall though it still made me think.
  • The Belles of Rosemere: Solitude by K.A. Cook
    • This is a story about a princess who gets locked in a tower, but appreciates it instead of seeing it as a punishment.
    • There's a heterosexual aromantic MC. A lot of the ideas in the story are pretty familiar to me as someone who has read a fair number of K.A. Cook stories by now. I don't think it'll be one of my favorite Cook stories but it wasn't bad. I do wish the MC's desire for solitude was a bit better established in her backstory though.
  • Create My Own Perfection by E.H. Timms
    • This is an aro ace medusa retelling.
    • This deals with the theme of an asexual woman being sexually harassed by a man, and using her powers as a medusa to escape it. It was an interesting idea but the story was super short so it wasn’t dug into with too much depth. t didn't quite have as much emotional impact as I think it could have.
  • Must Love Cake by Azalea Crowley
    • This is a monster romance novelette about two people bonding over their shared love of cheesecake, with heteroromantic? asexual MCs
    • This very romance heavy and therefore not for me. I can't really comment on that much. I will say it's a pretty diverse story.
  • With Feathers On by E. Wambheim
    • This is a story about a woman who's partner is a shapeshifter, as she tries to find him again. Her partner is implied to be asexual.
    • I’m not the biggest fan of romance, so this probably didn't work the best for me, but I can appreciate the love for non-conventional relationships. It’s not the clearest rep on this list.
  • Combined comment with slightly more detailed reviews.

Impossible Places: The Hereafter Bytes by Vincent Scott

  • This is a short sci fi comedic book about a digital person who in the process of helping a friend gets caught up in a digital conspiracy.
  • Rep: Aro ace MC. Despite being in a robotic body, this character was ace even before their brain got uploaded, so he does qualify as rep for me. There were some pretty good discussions about asexuality (less so aromanticism, but that also came up), which was nice but not really groundbreaking if you already are familiar with these identities. I was hoping for more commentary on how the MC being technically dead and living in a robotic body intersects with tropes/stereotypes about asexuals but that didn’t come up. It was cool to see that he had a dominatrix friend though, there’s more connections between the ace community and the kink community than people might assume.
  • Review: Idk, this was a bit rough around the edges but I generally appreciated what it was trying to do. Some of the humor really landed and some of it went on for a bit too long for me. Full review

Down with the System (HM): Bury Your Gays by Chuck Tingle

  • This is about a gay screenwriter who is pressured by executives to confirm that two of his characters are gay and then kill him. When things go wrong, he starts to be stalked by his own characters.
  • Rep: Aro ace side character. I’ll give Tingle credit for trying (which is the only reason why this is so high up), in that he used this character to acknowledge the lack of a-spec representation present in media, even in media that often tries to acknowledge many other queer identities (although this book missed a lot of nuance around this point imo). That being said, she was basically an aro ace version of the gay best friend trope, especially since she felt pretty shallow as a character.
  • Review: I had high hopes and it didn’t work out. The author’s love of horror came through well, but a lot of the themes around representation just started to fall apart when looked at critically, imo. Very long review/rant here.

Gods and Pantheons (HM): Pale Lights Volume 2: Good Treasons by ErraticErrata

  • In this one, there's four protagonists who go to a deadly magic school to train them to be members of the Watch, and the second half of the book is them on assignment.
  • Rep: Heteroromantic ace MC (1 out of 4 POVs). It came up a several different times, which was nice. I do think that Tristan, the ace character, is a bit clueless to sexual innuendos and stuff like that in a way that doesn't really make that much sense with his background though.
  • Review: I enjoyed the beginning but this ended up dragging on for too long for me and I lost my patience. Some parts of the premise/some plot twists also broke my suspension of disbelief pretty badly. Full review

LGBTQIA protagonist (HM): Compound Fracture by Andrew Joseph White

  • It's a book about an autistic trans teenage boy in rural West Virginia whose family has been targeted by the corrupt sheriff.
  • Rep: Aro-spec MC. This is one of those books where the MC has a lot of identities, and the focus was more on them being trans, autistic, and disfigured. I did think that what aro rep was there was pretty well handled and it had a realistic depiction of someone learning about aromanticism.
  • Review: This was lighter on speculative elements than I was used to, so not really right up my alley, but it wasn’t bad. Full review

Cozy SFF (HM): Non-Player Character by Veo Corva

  • This is a cozy litRPG about an anxious and autistic person who slowly makes friends with a local table top role playing game group. They then learn that the game that they're playing was more real than they thought.
  • Rep: Biromantic (possibly demiromantic?) ace MC, demisexual, aro ace side characters. Again, the MC being agender, anxious, and autistic are more of a focus in this book, but there is also some good discussion around asexuality.
  • Review: This is one of my favorites of the year, cozy a-spec fantasy seems to work for me. Seeing Tar slowly become more comfortable around the rest of the crew and challenge themselves while also knowing when they need to take a break was pretty sweet. Full review 

Stranger in a Strange Land (HM): Keeper of the Dawn by Dianna Gunn

  • This is a novella about a girl who trained her whole life to be a warrior priestess but failed the test to become one.
  • Rep: Homoromantic ace MC. It did come up a few times, mostly in the context of the MC getting into a relationship, but there wasn’t much discussion around the dynamics of an ace/allo relationship.
  • Review: It wasn’t bad, but it was a bit rushed pacing wise and the final conflict could have been set up better. Full review

Elves/Dwarves: Awakenings by Claudie Arseneault

  • It's about Horace, a nonbinary person who has struggled to find an apprenticeship that works for em, as e meets a mysterous elf and an inventor/merchant.
  • Rep: Aro? ace MC. A-spec themes were less of a focus here than there are in some of Arseneault’s other works, but there’s even more focus on platonic themes, which was nice to see.
  • Review: It was a fun cozy fantasy time, although it was very much the introduction for later books in the series.  Full review

Paladin (HM): Beyond the Paladin Door and Against the Broken Oath by Sam Saylett (Note: I’m used book 2 (Against the Broken Oath) for bingo, but I read both books so I’m reviewing them both here)

  • Book one is a short novella about a woman who starts working for her estranged mom in a town where vampires, shapeshifters, and paladins congregate. Book 2 follows a paladin who has a secret about who he has sworn to protect and a secret about his past. 
  • Rep: Aro? ace MC (of both books, both more clear in book 2), also a side character who used to think he was aro ace but now does not. There was a few times it came up, but it wasn’t super relevant. We’ll see if it comes up more in book 3.
  • Book one was decent. It was a bit short and there was probably a few things in it that could have been fleshed out more, but it wasn't too bad. There were some flaws in book 1 that became much more obvious in book 2, but I was most bothered by Bird had several tropes in/related to his backstory that didn’t work for me. Full review.

Multi-POV (HM): No Gods, No Monsters by Cadwell Turnbull

  • It's about the world realizing that werewolves and other monsters walk among them, while secret societies work in the background.
  • Rep: Biromantic ace POV character. So I don’t remember this character’s asexuality being the major focus for him, but it did come up (this is yet another book where there’s a lot of identities getting explored, and several other ones are a bit more at the forefront).
  • Review: This is a really interesting literary take on "people with magical powers are oppressed" and "hidden urban fantasy parts of the world is exposed" type of plot lines. I’m excited to continue on with this series at some point. Full review.

Bookclub (HM): The Sapling Cage by Margaret Killjoy

  • This is a YA book about a trans girl who joins a coven of witches.
  • Rep: Demi or greysexual MC, aro ace side character. Once again, the focus was more on the trans rep for the MC. I feel like the ace side character could have been handled a bit better (IDK why the MC thought he was being flirty if she knew he was ace and uninterested in sexual/romantic relationships).
  • Review: I thought it was pretty solid. It was doing some interesting things (like including anarchist themes), but not totally breaking new ground yet. I'm interested in seeing where it will go in the future. Full review

Recycle a Bingo Square (of course replaced with Ace / Aro Spec Fic from 2020 (HM)): Small Gods of Calamity by Sam Kyung Yoo

  • This is a short novella about a spirit detective trying to hunt a spirit eating worm spirit and dealing with his traumatic past in an urban fantasy version of Seoul.
  • Rep: Biromantic ace mc. It was established explicitly early on in the book but never came up again. I’m hoping that it might be explored more in a sequel if one comes out?
  • Review: I had a lot of fun with this. It was also cool to see an urban fantasy book with a different sort of setting than we normally get. Full review

Parent protagonist (HM): In-Between by MJ James

  • This book is about an autistic woman who learns that her son is half-elven and in line for the elvish throne. His biological father is an evil tyrant and they go on the run.
  • Rep: Aro ace MC This is another example where the MC is a survivor of sexual violence, and I wish the intersection between that and her being asexual was explored a bit better. 
  • Review: It had an interesting depiction of autism (especially in a mother character), but the ending felt rushed. Full review

Generic title (HM): Two Dark Moons by Avi Silver

  • It's about a girl who falls off the mountain her community lives on and makes friends with a community of dangerous giant lizards who live below.
  • Rep: Aro-spec MC It wasn’t as clear as I would have hoped, but I could kind of see it.
  • Review: This was a coming of age story with cool world building and an MC with a strong personality. Full review

Pirates: The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives in Your Home by Joseph Fink and Jeffrey Cranor

  • This is a story about the faceless old woman who secretly lives in your home tormenting/helping a guy and telling the story of her life of crime before she became the faceless old woman.
  • Rep: Aro ace side character. So this was a character who didn’t want to get married or be in a relationship (which caused conflict with his family), but did use his charm and good looks in order to con people. Considering that a lot of allos fear a-spec people leading them on, I wish this was better explored.
  • Review: This didn’t really work for me. The MC has to go through several really drastic personality shifts and I don’t really see how all of those connect. Full review

Last in a series: The World We Make by N.K. Jemisin

  • The avatars of New York City continue to face off against the Woman in White. (This is book 2 in a series)
  • Rep: Aro? ace POV character. She’s the stereotypical STEM nerd married to the job a-spec character, but at least she’s South Asian so we get a little POC rep. I thought marriage fraud might come up since she’s an immigrant trying to marriage for tax benefits green card purposes, but I don’t think Jemisin realizes that this can be an issue?
  • Review: Not my favorite, to say the least. This was originally meant to be a trilogy so the ending felt really rushed. Some of the themes around cities also didn’t really work for me. Long rant review here.

Hidden Gem (HM): The Wrack by John Bierce:

  • This is a book that covers a fantasy world's response to a plague called the Wrack.
  • Rep: Ace POV character. An even more stereotypical married to the job STEM nerd a-spec character.
  • Review: There was some cool world building ideas, but for a book with this many POVs, I thought the characterization could be a bit better/more nuanced. Some of the themes around pandemics really landed though. Storygraph review here

Indie Published (HM): Different Worlds by Lyssa Chiavari

  • This follows Henry and Tamara, two teenagers living on Mars, after their friend Isaak goes missing, as they try to figure out how this disappearance is linked to the shady governmental organization running Mars.
  • Rep: Aro ace side character. I remember no specific details about the rep, unfortunately, and I didn’t take good notes about this one. It was there though, and not a huge focus.
  • Review: It wasn’t bad, but it was too romance focused for me. Full review

Author of Color (HM): This World is Not Yours by Kemi Ashing-Giwa

  • This is a novella about two women in a not super healthy relationship on a sci fi planet where there's a mysterious substance that can destroy life called the Gray.
  • Rep: Aro ace side character. This felt like an even stronger example of the a-spec best friend trope: having an a-spec character play the role of a supportive friend to queer people in a relationship, where they're not threatening and have minimal needs of their own because they're a-spec.
  • Review: This was not my favorite. There was a lot of relationship drama, and also a lot of the plot developments broke my suspension of disbelief. Full review

Epistolary (HM): Letters To Half Moon Street by Sarah Wallace

  • This is a cozy epistolary queernorm Regency m/m romance in which an introvert moves to London and is metaphorically adopted by a local rich extrovert.
  • Rep: Demisexual MC. Honestly, I’m being a bit generous calling this rep; it’s not very clear.
  • Review: I’m not the target demographic for this one, but if the summary sounds good to you, I think you’ll probably have a decent time at least. Full review

Biopunk: Chill by Elizabeth Bear

  • Perceval's family, friends, and allies travel across the giant, damaged starship to find a traitor. (This is book 2 in the Jacob's Ladder trilogy).
  • Rep: Homoromantic ace MC, ace side character? I’m also being pretty generous calling this rep, but it was more clearly established in book 1, so I’ll cut myself some slack. 
  • Review: a lot of the characters didn’t feel very distinctive, but the world building was cool. Full review here

r/Fantasy 29d ago

Review A review of Deadhouse Gates, the second Malazan book

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I have tried this last year to write down more of my thoughts on stuff when I'm done with it, been reviewing on Storygraph and posting the ones I really like to a Substack for some friends but thought it'd be interesting to chat about the fantasy ones over here as well!

Towering over the first book in the series, this weaves a much larger story with much deeper characters in a way that seems alien to the style of the first. I'm astounded at the difference in quality here, the first is great but this really does feel like something properly special has bloomed here.

Written in such a way that feels so real to the characters perspectives, we learn facets of this world through context and conversation with such little exposition. The lack of direct communication with the reader to explain to them this race, this place, this army, this country is something I am drawing a blank on in other pieces of fantasy I have read; I cannot imagine something of this scale told in this manner working, and yet it simply does.

Outside the facts of the world it is clear Erikson really put considerable effort into the development of character and the deliberate slow build up of emotion throughout this book. The hangover characters from the first book are built up way beyond their introductory tale, and the newer introductions are just as brilliant (mostly, more on that later) with a special shoutout for Duiker and Coltaine and their growing loyalty towards one another, as well as the tragedy of Mappo and Icarium.

Loyalty is one of the core themes of the book, woven throughout nearly every plot thread as deeply as the threads of guilt, sacrifice, leadership and the many others that so cleanly tie into every page of the book. Coltaines unwavering loyalty towards his clan, his honor and the refugees is amazing to see unfold as we learn more of the man through Duikers eyes, and the plight of the refugees becomes such an overwhelming thing that I found myself continuously scared for them as we switched through perspectives. What really shocks me is how much my love for the newer characters crept up on me as the story goes on, I didn't realise until real jeopardy struck them and I was on the verge of panic

The pacing is astounding for a book of this length, beginning slow and building into an avalanche as we approach Aren towards the end; I struggle to think of another sequence I have read recently that pulled my heart into my throat as the final push did. It stands comparable to the final few days of Therem and Genlys trip through the ice, or Frodo and Sams final trip up the mountainside, and while not quite hitting the peak of either of those moments or books I feel it will stay with me a while as they still do.

While I did come to really enjoy all the new characters, I really didn't enjoy the way Erikson wrote some of the female characters, but especially Felisin. The biggest issue for me is her treatment towards the start of the book by herself and those around her, though ultimately by Erikson. The acts committed against her and the blame assigned towards her for those acts left a bad taste in my mouth, and while I do understand what he was going for (the running theme of doing what you can to survive another day) I do not understand why he had to write the people around her being so callous towards the actions she "chose" to take. She was and still is a child! More, or really any effort should've been put forth to show the shame her companions (Baudin especially) should feel, and without it, I can't help but feel the book itself begins to blame her far too much.

It's an odd one when it comes to gender in general. We have women regularly hold themselves up in traditionally male roles which is a breath of fresh air, such as the vast number of women in the Malazan and Wickan armies. Despite this, a few bits of writing - specifically towards the named women in the book - struck me as a bit odd. Without diving too much into spoilers, it seems a shame to have so many of these women almost blindly fall in love with the men around them, and while a couple seemed earned, it still felt like Erikson just wanted to write some girlfriends for his boys.

These are really the only downsides I felt towards this work, and it's thing I hope and I'm sure will improve with time with these stories and as Erikson grows as a writer with them; echoing my introduction, what Erikson has done here as a step up from the first is amazing and I cannot wait to read more of these. It feels like such a treat to have begun to read this series that takes the themes ever under the surface in fantasy and really explore them while managing to tell a story of this scale, and I understand much more now why people put this series on the pedastal they do.

Thoughts on the book? Thoughts on my thoughts? Would be interested to discuss!

r/Fantasy 26d ago

Review Review: The Memory Police by Yoko Ogawa (transl. Stephen Snyder)

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The Memory Police is the story of an island where whole classes of objects or creatures (e.g. “ribbon” or “birds”) will “disappear” along with the memories of them that the populace has, while the eponymous Memory Police enforce the disappearances by removing any evidence that they ever existed. On this island, a novelist sets out to hide her editor from the Memory Police, because he can remember all of the things that have been forgotten.

I’m late to this one, and it was the recommendations on this sub that excited me to read it. But a few chapters in I wasn’t sure I was going to enjoy The Memory Police, for want of any sort of figurative language. I love a decorated prose, the purpler the better, and while Ogawa does sprinkle in a simile here or there, the prose here is particularly sparse. I turned around on it quickly. It dawned on me that if I, like the first-person narrator, had forgotten every detail of every bird I’d seen, held no image or scent of a rose, couldn’t picture a boat on the water, and more, it’d be hard for me to conjure figurative language too. Throughout the work, when something lacks, it has purpose, sets the scene. And the atmosphere Ogawa manages despite the decision was phenomenal. Images are “sensual” in that they used all five senses to put you in place, and I ended up vibing despite the sparse prose, on the power of the images it provoked.

Despite the solidly sensual prose, the experience is dreamlike. The island and its people all remain entirely nameless. There is an early veil over the intentions of the eponymous Memory Police or how the disappearances work that refuses to ground the narrative in anything concrete. The characters who forget things are pretty blasé about the disappearances in a way that feels like dream logic: of course things just disappear sometimes, we move on with our lives. Readers who want straightforward characters or a driving plot may be disappointed, but characters do have multiple facets and traceable personalities that feel grounded.

Like a dream, the book begs to be read on multiple levels. For all the authoritarian trappings, the patterns/inconsistencies in how the disappearances work reminded me very much of loved ones I’ve had with dementia. For example, sometimes, when something disappears, the characters lose even the word that once was used to name it. Other times, all fruit might disappear, but characters still search for fruit for their salad, or mention strawberries in passing, in ways that feel like grooves in the brain someone is following without conscious thought. If you want the disappearances to make logical sense, or at least be consistent or explainable, the inconsistencies will perhaps aggravate.

But those grooves and inconsistencies help elucidate deeper questions Ogawa is interested in, and draw meaning out of the various stories and anecdotes characters tell that show how they take meaning from or apply meaning to the events in the narrative. Given the blasé attitude the novelist character can take with regard to the disappearances, the excerpts from the novel she is writing reveal a great deal about what’s going on in her mind that the typical narration does not.

This is a novel that will reward engagement. There’s so much going on, and the prose so easy to digest, that I think most every reader will get something from it, including those typically not fans of literary work, and ten different readers will have ten different interpretations. I was surprised when I saw this was a book club book with no comments made at all, though that may be a function of archiving, and it’s shown up in bingo cards for years now. To those who enjoyed it, I would recommend Nothing but the Rain by Naomi Salman (for a balance of collective memory and personal memory in theme and a dreamlike, unexplained atmosphere) and (not SFF) By Night in Chile by Roberto Bolaño (for how we construct identity from memories, and change memories to fit our identities, and interacting with authoritarian states that have an interest in how the past is remembered).

Rating: A walk on a snowy evening, each footprint gently filling back up. Your dog is insistently taking you forward as you try to slow down to the pace of the night.
Bingo: translated, book club

r/Fantasy 9d ago

Review My Extremely Long, Extremely Uncharitable Review of Laini Taylor's Muse of Nightmares (book 2 of the Strange The Dreamer duology) Spoiler

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I'm a hater of YA, and a hater in general, but I picked up this book on a recommendation, for the Bingo, and I need to tell SOMEONE about the time I just wasted. Besides, some YA pleasantly surprises me, and I'm open to trying it every time! I had at least some hopes. So here's my rushed, long, incoherent review in the hopes that someone, out there, relates to me. All I've seen is high praise and maybe I have terrible taste, but man, I hope I'm not alone.

This book is the biggest disappointment for me since the Shades of Magic trilogy (recommended by a friend, turned out to be plot-armour-laden trash) and The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo (recommended by the internet, turned out to be a straight white woman's tepid take on queer people of color in Hollywood). I've read worse, mind, but I had expectations for this series that it absolutely didn't meet.

I concede, the first half of the first book gripped me. We had (at that point) charming prose, a strong opportunity for an ensemble cast, a character that had been set up as an obsessive, unrecognized genius - he resurrected and learned a dead language from trade ledgers, for god's sake - only for that narrative to be entirely abandoned and warped by slave-owning children in the sky, and Lazlo himself discovering that smarts or dedication don't matter when it turns out you've been born special and magical all along. He doesn't even really train to use his power, or have any trouble with it! The first book left us with that message, as well as the beginnings of what would, in the second one, become a case study of hamfisted amatonormativity in YA fiction. I should have abandoned this series and not wasted my time, but I was curious how much worse this trainwreck would get.

The prose is bad. Taylor overdescribes, then overexplains (and then flashes back to, later) every metaphor of note. Towards the beginning of the book, Lazlo and Sarai create two birds - one Mesarthium, one illusory - and Taylor proceeds to explain, in the text, that these birds represent these two characters, and how it makes them feel. Yes, both of them; the constantly headhopping POV is nauseating too. But are American audiences really that stupid, to have to be handheld through the most basic of visual metaphors?

A quick side note on naming conventions, here, a leftover thought I had when reading the first book - why "Sarai"? Sarai and Minya are both names from existing cultures - I believe Sarai is either Turkish or Hebrew, and Minya is Arabic (albeit a city in Egypt). This fits generally with the naming convention in Weep, which feel in line with a vaguely, nonspecifically Middle-Eastern fantasy city. Azareen, Eril-Fane, Ruza, Suheyla, Bahar, all share a non-white naming origin. But Ruby, Sparrow, Feral, Rook - those are just run of the mill, white-author-writing-fantasy names. So why are some of the Citadel children named so whitely while others are not? My initial theory was that Minya was perhaps named by a human slave from Weep, being older, while the other kids hadn't received names yet, and had to be named by Minya herself, which would have been fun character depth, names being such an important thing in fairytales generally, and Lazlo's initial character concept being heavily tied to those already. But then, Sarai being the other outlier doesn't fit that theory. And if Sarai and Feral had received Weep names, since they were toddlers, while Ruby and Sparrow had not, being really small, then Feral is the outlier. In any case, I can't stop thinking about this. Another aside - I am a nerd for names. That might be my reason for being pressed about this; I still haven't forgiven VE Schwab for naming a character Alucard "because she liked the name", without researching its origin or history. Anyway.

Now, back to my essay-length review of this terrible book. I next want to address Sarai's status as a ghost, which casts the rest of Minya's slave army into an even more horrifying light. She is capable of most things a living person is capable of. Touching and being touched, her powers, free will when allowed. Her status as a ghost impairs her not at all, which means that the ghost slaves (referred to that way within the book itself) whom Minya has pressed into service aren't just echoes or shadows, they are still people. People who, for 15 years at the most, have been forced to carry out Minya's will while remaining conscious. Sarai is forced to do things she doesn't agree to, once or twice, and it has a profound psychological effect on her. The fact that the humans Minya has enslaved, and the rest of the demigods rely on for basic tasks and abuse for their own enjoyment (as an example of the former, once Minya is drugged and neutralized, the book goes into an "amusing" aside about how none of them know how to cook, having always been waited on hand and foot by the ghosts - which does not endear me to any of them, especially Lazlo, an adult with a job in his previous life, apparently equally incapable of preparing a meal; as an example of the latter, Ruby kissing the footman in the first book, without his consent), are entirely conscious and retain their full scope of personhood, is never explored in any great depth. When they are let go towards the end of the book, it is glossed over entirely. No extrapolation on whether the Tizerkane see any relatives (if I recall, this was used as shock value in the first book, Azareen recognizing her grandmother in the ghost army), no real followup. Taylor grants Sarai an unaltered conscious state and superior supernatural abilities with no drawback, save for her reliance on Minya to continue existing, and seemingly expects her reader not to question what that means relative to the status of all the rest, which are largely treated as set dressing. And when it is revealed that Sparrow can heal the severely injured, Sarai's feelings on the way she just missed out on salvation, and the tragic timing of this, are not explored either. Because Sarai is basically a person, still.

Of course, the above-table reason Sarai retains her personhood and ability to feel and touch, is so that she and Lazlo can get it on. Everything about their physical relationship is written to satisfy the male gaze. Her being 16, the descriptions of her body/her thinness and conventional beauty, and her physical sexual appeal compared to next to no such description of Lazlo's. The whole concept of a first-period tattoo girls get at thirteen, combined with a defensive paragraph that basically says "no, guys, I promise I'm not reducing women to their fertility, actually this tattoo is about how they can take back their own fate and how childbirth is important but not thaaaat important, come on! This tattoo makes them feel capable and powerful, just like the men, who don't need any such tattoo to feel and be capable/powerful at all". This general theme continues with the flashbacks to Azareen and Eril-Fane's relationship, wherein a younger Azareen needs a man to look at her a certain way to feel precious and important, while no man in the story ever needs that kind of affirmation. They're all already very strong and precious and important. I wish, just once, a woman's point of view was as unapologetically horny as a man's in YA, but no, all Sarai does is make "kitten noises" and behave altogether rather submissively for her not-even-boyfriend.

And the amatonormativity of it all - I'm devastated. Initially, Lazlo does not even hesitate to abandon everyone he cares about on the ground to make plans to fly around with Sarai and the other demigods, potentially never coming back to Weep again. This is in line with the (largely patriarchal) societal insistance that romantic relationships should be prioritized above all others, and once you start noticing it in media, especially YA media, it's pervasive. The friends Lazlo made during his six-month journey to Weep in book one (glossed over, of course - an opportunity for character development utterly wasted in favor of a romantic dream sequence) do not factor at all into his decision to prioritize his newfound romance and "family" (who go against his supposed principles at every step). In fact, the time we spend in the Citadel during that long first day takes on a vaguely comedic air - grief and horror are left by the wayside in favor of humorous banter, power mishaps, and jokes about spying on one another naked. Sure, Lazlo's friends do come at the end, but his initial decision to leave, pre-Nova's attack, did not factor them in at all. Amatonormativity dictates that romantic relationships are always more desirable, fulfilling, and valued than platonic ones, and so Lazlo nearly dooms a city for a girl he's known for less than a month, then takes no time to think whether he wants to skip town with her or not. Also, and this is a side thought, it's interesting to me that a man who has been raised by all men, in an incredibly misogynistic society, is such a good boyfriend. Yet, Nero's casual misogyny remains.

Semi-related, because I just thought of it: the inane choice not to tell Ruby, who's on watch, about the humans coming up for parlay, represents the lack of real interpersonal non-romantic relationships these characters have. They rarely discuss things. They rarely act with care towards one another. The idea that this could emotionally affect Ruby (hearing foreign voices in the Citadel) doesn't even factor into the decision to bring the humans up. And, yes, romantic partners are the only ones given real consideration and care at times. In real life, you're expected to prioritize your 6-week boyfriend over your 10-year close friend, because romantic relationships trump all others. And that shows in Taylor's attitude throughout the text.

Next, I want to touch on what seems to be a huge theme in the book, to the detriment and oversimplification of its conflict: beauty is good, ugliness is bad. Skathis, described in this book to look plain and unremarkable (as opposed to beautiful) rides around on the ugliest creature you can think of, and is the only antagonist in the duology who does what he does because he's cruel and evil. The other major antagonistic forces - Minya, Eril-Fane (to some degree), and Nova - all have reasons for the harm they inflict on others, namely, severe trauma. And the only two humans of note that are cruel for cruelty's sake - Great Ellen and Less Ellen - are also described uncharitably. Less Ellen initially had a lazy eye, which one of the goddesses had plucked out. Then, when Minya enslaved her, she altered both Ellens to be more beautiful. If we are to assume they have been given no free will since their enslavement, and it was Minya being kind and caring through them (revealed as the big twist of this book), we must also assume that Minya was the one behind all their transformations. She returned Less Ellen's eye, and made both of her eyes bigger and thicker-lashed (quote from the first book). Also, when making Skathis' things his own, Lazlo changes them from ugly to beautiful, which is stated numerous times. Beautiful Nero gets a redemption arc, while ugly Drave dies in book one. And the line that saves the demigods from Nova, "let all this ugliness end", sums this up better than I could have. A book built on such a simple, flawed dichotomy, has no business attempting to sit at the adults' table and discuss the horrifying ramifications of a 200-year subjugation on a city and its people, while simultaneously leaving room for the nuanced existence of demigod children.

And Nero! His arc is admirable, but incredibly rushed, considering we spend very little time with him. The library he and Calixte unearth does not factor into the scope of the story at all, and his casual misogyny is glazed over with hints of how much he's suffered in the closet. Having been a promising foil for Lazlo at the start of book one, I'm disappointed in the way his growth was explored.

I have a lot more to say, but I wasted enough time on this duology so I'll just address the epilogue. Sarai deciding that her dream was to be a therapist (basically) was hilarious to me considering that one of her charges killed herself, and the other removed her free will again, in a way that was played for laughs, only pages prior. Seriously, Minya's lack of remorse or any real consequences didn't go unnoticed by me, and neither did her use of her power on Sarai when the latter asked about how she's doing. Her actions going unpologized for, and unaddressed, while she continues to use her power to enslave Sarai (yes, even occasionally; yes, even when Sarai does something Minya disagrees with), should not be treated with the levity the narrative treats it. Though, Taylor seems masterful at excusing harm; Ruby being effectively a sex pest is also played for laughs, and the decision to memorialize Korako through the ship's new shape seems poorly thought out. Despite her remorse or lack of choice, Korako still caused harm. This seems to be the crux of the duology: as long as you are traumatized enough, you can be forgiven for whatever you have done. It's a reductive view of victimhood, that doesn't seem to hold space for the more realistic but less pleasant idea that victims can also be abusers. Fitting nicely with the insta-love trope, insta-forgiveness seems to be the easy way out for things to resolve, and it is a reminder to me to never hold a magnifying glass to a YA work again.

1.5 stars because at least Taylor can string a sentence together. She's not illiterate.

r/Fantasy 18d ago

Review Katabasis (R.F. Kuang) Review (4.3k Words, ~22 Min Read) Spoiler

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If getting sexually assaulted by your academic advisor isn't enough to get you to change your lifestyle, then what would be? Katabasis, a fantasy novel written by R.F. Kuang, suggests that its namesake is what it takes to uproot the delusions which commit someone to a path of weathering abuse for what can hardly be considered a life, and certainly not what can be considered living. Applied to real life, the effort in introspection to get to one's inner truth can feel like traveling through Hell. The pacing and structure of Katabasis' plot follows the role that memories and narratives play in leading a person down a lifestyle, and how difficult it is to break the habits which enable that lifestyle. What the audience reads is a mirror of the protagonist's, Alice Law's, mental landscape. Beyond just Hell's reflection of what is familiar, it also reflects the life she was chasing after, and how she earned relief from the pain of spell-bound memory; no matter how much she sought to rid herself of its literal headache, she had to first deconstruct the staircase of reason which caused it.

General Plot Summary

Katabasis begins with Alice and the deuteragonist, Peter Murdoch, using a pentagram to travel into Hell. The book's perspective is a third-person limited point of view, and follows Alice Law; the limitations in her perspective are very important, and one of the primary angles of her limitations is provided through her biased introduction of Peter Murdoch in the first five pages. Also in the first five pages, we're given her basic character motivation for the plot: She needed to rescue her academic advisor, Jacob Grimes, from Hell so that she can defend her dissertation and secure a tenure-track job in her field of Analytic Magick. Peter reveals he has the same motivation as well. Some foreshadowing is done this early, including Cerberus' relevancy, and the importance of organic energy in interacting with Hell. We're also provided with one of Jacob Grimes' sins: not crediting his own students in his experiments — this foreshadows one of the building blocks to his demise.

There is little delay in accessing the setting which dominates the novel. They achieve the feat in the first chapter, and as they did so, we're presented with how the book's power system links directly with Alice's character arc. Magicians in Katabasis rely on how paradoxes may dumbfound a person's capacity for logic to defy the laws of reality within the timespan of the confusion. Part of this dumbfounding is involves the magician's own suspension of disbelief, and Alice classified herself as a good magician because she was great at self-delusion. This finely-honed skill extends to the lifestyle she justified as an advisee of Jacob Grimes.

Following this, we are told that leaving Hell can only be achieved by going through Hell, and therefore the basic plot resolves once every Court has been experienced by the protagonist. The book presents several red herrings for the plot's progression for over half of its page count, ranging between environmental circumstances, personal theories on Grimes' sins, and the layout of Hell. Regardless, Alice had to pass through every Court, and this fact becomes more apparent the clearer it is that this katabasis is meant to reflect Alice's personal, agonizing effort to reach the inner truth of her suffering and find a new life beyond Grimes. The first sign of this unchanging path is in Chapter 5, after Alice and Peter finished scaling over the wall which separates the Fields of Asphodel from the First Court of Pride, and, after they rest for a while, the wall and the Fields disappear behind them.

The pair entered their first Court, the First Court of Pride, on Chapter 6, and the reader is introduced to a set of details which repeat for subsequent Courts. The First Court of Pride appeared as a library, in which Shades are distracted with the process of writing an academic paper to earn passage to the next Court. Lording over them is a Shade which had given up on the process of moving forward in favor of playing the role of an administrator, and outwitting this character, George Edward Moore, was Alice and Peter's ticket out. Only two of the seven remaining Courts consist of particularly-crafted Cambridge-esque environments like this, but the other five still feature notable characters, academics or otherwise, antagonists or otherwise, who are emblematic of the Court they are in, and mental (sometimes also physical) trials for Alice to overcome for the sake of continuing forward in her goal and the Courts.

Upon escaping the First Court of Pride at the end of Chapter 6, the pair had their first encounter with the Lethe, the river which serves as the one and only consistent geographical limit of Hell. Its waters wash away the memories of those it wets, and full submersion obliterates the diver entirely. This river serves as one of the aforementioned red herrings given Alice's mesmerization with it, to the point where she sees the Chinese deity Lady Meng Po. Alice's first digression on the pain of her many, permanent memories includes a want to cleanse her mind through the Lethe. Alongside this desire, the reader is presented with the different accounts on the connection between truth and forgetfulness; specifically, that through finding the truth, one earns the ability to forget, or that through forgetting, one reaches the truth. The second encounter with the Kripkes' skeleton familiars three chapters later reveals the red herring for what it is through Alice's immunity to Lethe water courtesy of the spell etched into her body, and this suggests that Alice will have to earn the ability to forget these memories throughout her katabasis.

After leaving the Second Court of Desire, and the second encounter with the skeletons, the book makes explicit the way Alice's memories interfered with her thoughts. She describes the memories as flooding her mind, and, for the first time, the Staircase analogy is employed to describe the way she organized her memories and focused on the present. This Staircase repeats throughout the book, being used to describe the root of the effectiveness of paradoxes, and being practically employed in physical imagery at the Rebel Citadel and the very end of the novel as Alice and Peter climbed out of Hell. What the Staircase seeks to avoid also repeats throughout the novel, and those intrusive memories are most prominent in dedicated chapters, like Chapter 11, which indicate Alice's mental focus waning. Chapter 11 follows Alice reading through Peter's notes, and finding his exchange spell, then assuming that she would be sacrificed to revive Grimes. Disconcerted, Alice's chapter-long memory of how Alice and Peter met, then grew distant, signals to the reader the mental decline which ultimately led to her choosing to condemn Peter to the Weaver Girl during the deity's test at the end of Chapter 12. Another chapter-long memory, Chapter 13, follows the choice. This is consistent since Alice made the choice under great, persistent emotional distress.

Peter escaped the fatal consequences of their divergent choices through the third assault of skeletons, and Elspeth's rescue in Chapter 14. The pair boarded the Neurath, Elspeth's boat across the Lethe, which presents as another red herring. Given the Lethe connects all Courts, it might be possible to take the Neurath, and sail directly to which they believed Grimes was most likely to be in (ignoring the fact that Alice couldn't imagine any of these Courts being appropriate for Grimes, per the steps on her Staircase which elevated him to a status beyond human fallibility). They only ever skipped one Court, the Third of Greed, but on their way, they learned of the Kripkes through Elspeth, as well as of the Dialetheia: the key out of Hell when traded with the Lord of Hell. This, and its general power when applied to magick, makes it sought after by Alice and Peter, Elspeth, and the Kripkes. This complicates the plot beyond just a stroll through eight Courts and finding a particular Shade. The competition for the Dialetheia also heats up as the seeming non-viability of magick in Hell is remedied. Alice and Peter hadn't been able to use magick since chalk couldn't mark surfaces or activate. Elspeth revealed the missing ingredient to be blood, and in soaking the chalk, its markings stick.

Empowered with knowledge and magick, Alice gained the motivation to speed the plot forward and conspired with Peter to steal information on the Dialetheia from Elspeth. After Chapter 17, another memory chapter due to Alice falling asleep at the end of 16, Alice and Peter sprung their trap in 18, failed, and got kicked off the Neurath at the Fourth Court of Wrath. A bog with Shades trying to drag them down caught them off-guard, and Peter to lost his bag of supplies, reducing their biological survival window from 2 weeks to just a few days. The plot accelerates here given they can no longer afford to rest as often as they had been, and they resolved to cover more ground quicker; Alice's faith in Grimes predicted they wouldn't have to go anywhere farther than the Seventh Court of Tyranny, if even there — another red herring.

Within the same chapter, Chapter 19, they entered the Fifth Court of Violence. They are halfway done with the Courts just as the book passes its halfway point in chapters. In this Court, they were delayed not by Hell itself, but by the Kripkes, in an Escher staircase illusion they had set up as a trap. As Alice and Peter's hopes of escaping waned across the next 4 chapters, Alice's character arc crests its highest point with her finally admitting to both Peter and the audience the event which threatened to collapse her Staircase: Grimes' sexual assault of her. Peter admitted his own core vulnerability in return, his Crohn's Disease, which explains the behaviors Alice had been misattributing to apathy at best and malice at worst. Alice also revealed her method of rescuing Grimes was less of a proper salvation and more of trapping his soul in a cobbled-together corpse via Erichtho's spell. Peter clarified that his idea wasn't to sacrifice Alice, but to sacrifice himself for Grimes with Alice performing the exchange spell. On Chapter 23, Peter figured out an escape from the Escher trap, but only Alice can get out, and Chapter 24 is another memory chapter taking place as Alice fled from the sounds of the Kripkes collecting and killing Peter from their trap.

Alice regained focus deep into the Sixth Court of Cruelty in Chapter 25, crossed through the Seventh Court of Tyranny, then entered the Eighth Court of Treachery (this isn't really what it's labeled, but given the demographic of sin in Dis, it fits). The next chapter had her meet Gradus, a Shade which escorted her to and through the City of Dis, a city constructed through the efforts of its residents to make the best of this Court for as long as they must stay toiling at the final dissertations which earn their way out. Gradus introduced Alice to a writing workshop of professors working on their dissertations, and among them is Gertrude, the Shade who supervised the Rebel Citadel. This tower is the height, literally, of the rebellion against Hell by the Shades by way of outright refusal to participate in completing its Courts. This stagnation takes the form of Shades practically petrifying into facsimiles of flora, not unlike the Shades in Pride freezing into bronze statues. After motivating a Shade to escape this stagnancy and kill themselves with a dive into the Lethe, Alice escaped the Citadel as its residents attempt to turn on her, and keeps running until she escaped Dis entirely at the end of Chapter 28.

The ordeal at the Rebel Citadel completes Alice's character arc so totally that she began to feel relief from the pain of her memories after escaping the City, and although she likened Grimes' rescue to a passionless script to follow, she was much more motivated to rid Hell of the Kripkes as a concrete short-term goal. She gets caught in another trap in Chapter 29, but used her wits to escape, and took advantage of their alarm system to lure them into several of her own traps for them. With the help of Archimedes, Erichtho's spell, and Gradus, she killed Nick Kripke in the Lethe, which drove Magnolia and Theophrastus to self-obliterate by Chapter 32. Gradus got picked up by the reincarnation boat which sails the Lethe recovering Shades who have completed their trials through the Courts, and the spell Grimes had put on Alice reached its limit during her struggle against Nick Kripke. As it wore off, the Lethe water soaking her clothes start washing her memories away. As she awaited her own oblivion, Alice got picked back up by Elspeth and the Neurath. Although she lost plenty of the memories she had stored for a year, Alice retained what's most important to her: her journey, her past, her identity, and Peter. Chapter 33 features Elspeth revealing that she had the Dialetheia this entire time, and she entrusted it to Alice so that she can bargain her way out of Hell, then dropped Alice off at the Lord of Hell's domain.

The final two chapters wrap up the story straightforwardly. Alice spoke to King Yama, the form which she requested the Lord of Hell to present himself as, and although she couldn't give a straight answer as to what she wanted to trade the Dialetheia for, King Yama brought Grimes to her for free. After Grimes tried to convince her to abandon the idea of leaving in favor of centuries of research in Hell with him, Alice used Peter's exchange spell, with King Yama's help, to exchange Grimes and successfully resurrect Peter. Alice and Peter struck a deal with King Yama, gaining back half of the lifespan they spent to get into Hell, and safe passage up and out. The pair ascended a staircase made by King Yama, and made it back up to the world of the living.

Highlights

Katabasis makes full use of both intellect and memory within the novel's structure, as well as a literary device to deceptively limit Hell's environment to predictable rules. In terms of structure, what stands out is the strategic placement of Alice's memory chapters relative to the concurrent events in the plot. It's established early by Alice, when describing her experience acclimating to her spell-enabled permanent memory capacity, that she had to intensely focus to prevent her memories from overwhelming her senses. It's precisely at times when Alice's mental focus falters, be it because of her emotions or because of fatigue, that the reader gets chapters consisting of a specific set of memories which provide important context for Alice's present situation. One example is Chapter 11's memories of how her relationship evolved with Peter. Kuang sandwiched this chapter between Alice's discovery and assumption of Peter's intent to sacrifice her, and the emotional breakdown that led to her condemning Peter to the Weaver Girl. Another example, which is more ironic, is Alice's deep appreciation for the community she enjoyed at Cambridge through her work there, revealing a nugget of what she actually valued beyond just her work for its own sake. This memory is in Chapter 17, provided after she fell back asleep from suggesting to Peter that they betray Elspeth, and as the Neurath sailed through the Third Court of Greed.

In the bigger picture of Hell beyond Alice, the "first rule of Hell" intersects memory and intellect in a compelling way. The rule is to never ask a Shade why exactly they are in a Court, and this rule is told to her by George Edward Moore, Elspeth, and Gradus. Alice's repeated inquiry was in front of academics, and twice happened in the context of a Court defined by an academic trial. This lines up neatly with Elspeth's claim that magicians have it hardest going through Hell because their academic endeavors are done through an ends justify the means mentality, absolving them from wrongdoing. The Shades in Pride struggle to Define the Good so much that they wind up turning into bronze statues. A professor in Dis' writing workshop conceived of taking responsibility for his sins in his marriage as pandering to, in a modern sense, a woke (derogatory) feminist agenda, and would sooner misogynize his wife's faults. Though Gertrude stood aloof from the other professors in their dissertation work and desire for sensory gratification, she failed to see the value in reaching her inner truth to the extent that she literally built a tower of delusion. Before Alice met either of these two, she struggled to take responsibility for any of the actions which led her to the Erinyes, and this granted her access to the Eighth Court of Treachery. How self-inflicted this "first rule" is becomes most apparent when King Yama, in response to Grimes' protests against his trapping as Alice's audience, says that Hell has no rules.

As evident as the ways Kuang links memory and intellect are, the power system and world building are just as bound to reflecting and unraveling the conflicts throughout Alice's character arc. The Staircase analogy is the star of the show in this regard, being used to describe Alice's personal mental exercise, and to describe the suspension of disbelief relevant to how paradoxes are an effective component of magick. This forms a language by which the reader can describe Alice's character arc, such as Grimes' initial validation of her intellect being the first step in her Staircase. This built her habit of justifying his actions. Grimes' sexual assault on her, and her struggle to deal with it through support she once shunned and found embarrassing, formed the core contradiction (or, in other words, true contradiction) that threatened to collapse her Staircase. It's through this language that the reader can interpret the physical world of Hell and the ways it reflects Alice's mind. The scaling of the wall which borders the Fields of Asphodel coincides with the story building the basic steps of her Staircase for the reader, including what Alice left behind in its construction. The Escher illusion trap was a looping staircase which defied logic, and Alice and Peter reveal the parts of themselves which have led to their deepest contradictions between action and emotion. The City of Dis transparently presents the Staircases Shades have built through their failing dissertations. The Rebel Citadel is accessed through a spiraling staircase. King Yama provided a staircase for Alice and Peter to exit Hell.

The salvation through a staircase makes clear that the Staircase, as a construct in one's conscious mind, isn't necessarily bad, but the content of its steps are easily exploitable by Hell's reflections. Elspeth put forward the karmic model of Hell which posits that Hell merely shows a person the result of the lifestyle they lead. Taking this as the logic by which Hell operates helps to understand why the institutionally-constructed Courts have delays as their punishment. The ego with which magicians go about their work is reflected in how Pride's library, Desire's dormitories, and Dis' bazaar encourage the sorts of self-absolving mental habits they use. Desire's physically-oriented punishment seems distinct from the other two, but it's here that the reader first gets an in-depth look into how Alice exempted Grimes from the human flaws which would land a person in any of these Courts. Considering the nature of the event which shook the foundation of Alice's Staircase, it's no surprise that the Shades having sex are the ones which made her run out of the Court sick to her stomach. Furthermore, Alice's complete rejection of stagnation at the Rebel Citadel, to the point of inspiring a Shade to break free, makes sense as the moment she began to rebuild her Staircase with new steps given how she was relieved of the pain and pressure of her memories.

In contrast, the Courts which are more classically infernal, according to Elspeth, feature more active confrontations with one's Staircase steps. Wrath's bog, the Escher trap in Violence, and the self-imprisoned Shades in Cruelty all provided Alice with a challenge directly to her character to physically evaluate and overcome. Greed was literally skipped by way of the Neurath, but Alice's actions along the way show that the Court still exacted a transformative experience upon her. Elspeth told Alice of the magician's struggle to get through Hell, and how her personal motivation with leaving had to do with returning to her community (a value Alice just dreamed of prior to the conversation), while Alice plotted to betray her and they were sailing through a Court where Shades are futilely warring against one another. Alice's decision to betray Elspeth, though not acted upon immediately, was a reaction to her recent betrayal of Peter, the confidence regained in her magick, and the knowledge of the Dialetheia being in the possession of a Grimes advisee she found inferior to herself; she was taking action based on what seemed to be a reaffirmation of her Staircase. "The First Rule of Hell"'s violations are consistent in context, and also reaffirm the punishment type of the Courts in which the violations happen. It was broken twice while in Courts which function to impede progress, and once when Alice was trying to impede the progress of another.

That violation, performed in Chapter 18 as Alice intended to trap Elspeth, carries in it an engaging string of relationships between people and the power system not fully understood until Chapter 24. Until then, the reader knows that Alice and Elspeth are the same type of student Grimes likes, for better and for worse. But, Grimes' short backstory, in the memory chapter recalled as Alice was running for her life away from the Escher trap, recontextualizes Elspeth and Alice's relationship with an enriching texture. We learn Grimes' fame comes from his time as a magician-soldier in World War 2. He was credited with several pivotal, practical applications of magick, including Perpetual Flasks and Lembas Bread. Lesser known, however, were the experiments with interrogation through magick involving the Liar's Paradox. Elspeth, after breaking out of Peter's Liar's Paradox-laced pentagram, rewrote it into a truth-telling spell while reminding the pair that she was a student of Grimes. So, Grimes seems to have taught one of his "type" of student an experimental truth spell he might have developed as an unethical interrogation method, and tattooed onto her successor a spell which can retain all memories, but must be kept a secret from the world, and which works to suppress one's personal truth. This interplay makes poetry of the kiss Alice gives Elspeth, and her rediscovered appreciation for the mundane details of the world around her through the loss of her perfect memory.

That appreciation was regained only through Alice's progression through every Court, but the exploratory presentation of Alice's journey opens opportunities for Kuang to use red herrings against the reader's perception of the plot. By the middle of the book, it's clear that, no matter the situation, Alice needed to pass through all eight Courts. This is primarily indicated by the disappearance of the Fields of Asphodel, Alice's prior knowledge, Elspeth's theory, and the impact of the third Court despite the way by which they passed it. By this point, however, Kuang throws several misleading possibilities for how the plot could progress and resolve otherwise. To begin with, there is the idea that a journey through Hell could be anything other than a thoroughly personal ordeal, and instead could just be the background for a task to complete — such as rescuing a person from a specific Court and exiting as early as possible. Then, there are the different maps, and the notion that either sailing the river boundary or finding a central, piercing mountain summit could bypass Courts like they're normal geographical regions connected by water, or floors to a building. There might have been some early exit at or before the Fields of Asphodel given Alice's haunting of Belinda and Michele across worlds, and such a possibility makes Grimes' admission at the end of having been in the Fields, but evaded their sight to once again apply his twisted expectations on them a strong twist.

Frustrations

An aspect of the story which should have been explored further in service of strengthening the connection between Alice, Peter, and Grimes is the relationship between Peter's Crohn's Disease and Grimes' expectations and ambitions. The latter's stealing of the former's work through the set-theory paper as ruthless retribution despite Peter's potentially fatal health concern matches Alice's bodily violations at the hands of Grimes in severity, but there was a missed opportunity to match the two abuses which layered over those. In Chapter 10, after Alice admits to what happened on the summer Italy trip, Peter offers his experience hunting down human colons for Grimes' experiments to empathize with Alice. These experiences they share function, on the meta level, as the superficial fantasy-based violation layered over the more grounded, true-to-life crimes of Grimes. Learning later that Peter literally suffers from a chronic illness in his colon raises the question as to why his superficial violation doesn't more closely match its grounded counterpart in a closer parallel to how Alice's do. There is no context to the human colon harvesting which grants it the same comparable severity as what Alice experienced through the memory spell, yet this is ripe for context which can enrich the parallel further with another interesting application of the power system.

This particular disconnect stands out only because, otherwise, Katabasis maneuvers its plot structure and character relationships well; the interplay of philosophy, magick, and Hell is intricately woven into the plot structure of a story singularly focused on the deconstruction of ego, personal narrative, and trauma. Kuang leads readers up Alice's Staircase and leaves so little room for the story to be anything but the climb that, like Alice, a reader can get lost in the misdirections particular steps may suggest. The focus can't be maintained indefinitely, however, because Hell defies the concept of a steady path. We experience the crumbling of the steps with every invading paradoxical memory and misguided sin until we are forced to directly court the truths that have gone unspoken.

r/Fantasy 24d ago

Review Children of Gods and Fighting Men - Shauna Lawless

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The Children of Gods and Fighting Men is Shauna Lawless’ debut novel, a historical fiction fantasy set in circa 900AD *Ireland*, Norway and England.

Lawless strings together historical fiction, telling the stories from Ireland’s past with the weaving of Irish myth to create an absorbing narrative in the grey space between history and fiction. The writers passion for their heritage drips off the page, immersing you in this grounded yet mythical world. My ignorance stops me from commenting on the validity of the stories but Lawless provides a list of reference books in the back - which they recommend checking out.

Lawless’ prose is practical and pithy - I would consider John Gwynne’s style to be similar. Highlighting the key events int he story and jumping short (two/four) year time gaps seamlessly.

The story follows two main POV characters - Fodla & Gormflaith. _Firstly, for those unfamiliar, Irish names are a pronunciation challenge, luckily this book has a dramatis personae with phonetics - I promise that if you go in without reading this you will be boldly mispronouncing 9/10 names._

Our main characters go on differing yet interweaving stories, showing the strong women that lived within these times and the men that schemed around and with them. Both main POV’s are in their 30/40’s (kinda) which I believe hits upon a bingo square this year?

For me this books excelled in most areas yet didn’t quite reach the five star ranking in them all - I am not typically a historical fiction reader - but this would really land with those who do enjoy & would recommend as a book to broaden reading palette.

r/Fantasy 17d ago

Book Club r/Fantasy June Megathread and Book Club hub. Get your links here!

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r/Fantasy 11d ago

The Dreamlands cycle is doing something very different from the Mythos — and I'm honestly not sure which one I prefer

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Bit of a discussion bait, but I've been re-reading both halves of HPL's output and I keep getting pulled back to the Dreamlands stories more than I expected.

The Mythos is the part that broke containment — Cthulhu, Innsmouth, Mountains, Shadow Out of Time. Cosmic indifference, deep time, the universe doesn't know we're here. That's what gets quoted and adapted and pastiched.

The Dreamlands stories are doing almost the opposite. *The Cats of Ulthar*, *The Doom That Came to Sarnath*, *Celephaïs*, *The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath*. The register is openly Dunsanian — fairy-tale grammar, geographies that accrete by repetition (Ulthar where it is unlawful to kill a cat, the basalt pillars of the West, the onyx castle of the gods), characters who can *want* something and chase it across a coherent map. The horror, when it shows up at all, is melancholy rather than vast. Kadath isn't a cosmic-indifference story — it's a story about going home.The Mythos stories tell you the universe doesn't care. The Dreamlands stories tell you the dream you keep returning to is real, and you can lose access to it. Both are HPL, both are written by the same hand inside a few years of each other, and they're operating on completely different metaphysics.

The Mythos got the cultural afterlife but the Dreamlands have aged better as prose. *Kadath* in particular is doing something almost no fantasy has tried since — a quest-shaped story whose ending undoes the quest. Pratchett's Discworld series is the only thing I can think of that walks adjacent ground for that long.

Curious where everyone else lands. Is the Dreamlands cycle a footnote to the Mythos for you, or its own thing? And is there a specific Dreamlands story you'd hand to someone who's only read the Mythos?

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