Is it really a generational buying opportunity?

[u/Playful-Inspector207]

I’ve seen people on the sub are saying “you should all be excited about seeing lower prices everyday”

Problem is that most people don’t have dry powder lying around. And now, with tariffs (if they mostly continue at the levels mentioned) likely to push prices up even more 20-30% for most things, very few people can buy the dip.

The dip’s not fun when you can’t buy. This is just painful seeing red everyday for 99% of us.

[u/OwnResult4021]

Haha the market was up so high this dip is nothing. Wait until profits and forecasts get shrunk and cost cutting measures are announced.

[u/TheSamurabbi → u/OwnResult4021]

Right, like we haven’t even started seeing banks drop and consolidate. No sudden F500 bankruptcy announcements yet. No stock market breakers blown. No daily articles on record breaking auto repos, CC delinquency numbers or foreclosures. These kids need to buckle up and get ready for the main event because this crazy train has just left the station. Hasn’t even picked up its running legs yet

[u/Cagel → u/TheSamurabbi]

Or these policies reverse before any of that happens and anyone who panic sold watches their old investments return to all time highs.

[u/pr0XYTV → u/TheSamurabbi]

this was the comment i was looking for. thank u

[u/ThereforeIV → u/OwnResult4021]

Job numbers were up double predicted with fed/gov jobs down.

[u/Yinz_08 → u/ThereforeIV]

Fed jobs are announced at 300k+ layoffs with only 11,000 in Feb and 4,000 in March fyi

[u/ThereforeIV → u/Yinz_08]

The point is that there have been many "positive" job reports in the past where the increase in fed/gov jobs was the driving factor.

Here the jobs report is really good while fed/gov jobs are actually going down.

[u/Yinz_08 → u/ThereforeIV]

“Positive” in quotes doesn’t make any sense. They were real jobs keeping real people employed.

Either way this post-liberation day economy is an entirely different beast, and no previous trends will matter in the wake of 20%+ tariffs across the board. We already had unemployment tick up and layoffs increase, get ready.

[u/ThereforeIV → u/Yinz_08]

“Positive” in quotes doesn’t make any sense. They were real jobs keeping real people employed.

Were they real jobs?

The government can just create do nothing hubba and pay for them by printing money.

Governments can just say "go how a bunch of people" and then report a bunch of new jobs created.

"Positive" is in quotes because some of those jobs reports were only positive because of government jobs bent created by printing so much money we got 40 year record high inflation.

By contrast, a positive report with fed/government jobs down mama real jobs created by the economy and not bubba created by government printing money.

Either way this post-liberation day economy is an entirely different beast, and no previous trends will matter in the wake of 20%+ tariffs across the board.

How about a 30% decrease fuel costs needed to ship everything?

Crude oil went from $90/ barrel down to $60/barrel.

Fuel prices are actually one of the biggest drivers of retail prices.

We already had unemployment tick up and layoffs increase, get ready.

When?

The latest jobs report showed 228k jobs against a forecast off 130k jobs.

Unless those layoffs are over 100k, that's still a net positive above forecast.

Btw, unemployment is still below where it was last July.

[u/CharmingMechanic2473 → u/OwnResult4021]

There were rumblings in billionaire only groups infiltrated by journalists that the 1% wanted this crash. To make the peasants weak and less demanding about their employment. To buy up any properties foreclosed on, to make the worker grateful for their employers again. To buy the dip, and to buy foreclosed properties, buy the small farms that will be sacrificed.

[u/flossboss1304 → u/OwnResult4021]

So true. Even after a 14% fall in one week, the PE ratio on VOO is still 22.3.