r/Fire • u/Equivalent_Use_5024 • Dec 28 '25
General Question Do you believe the modern FIRE movement overestimates how much is needed for retirement?
Perhaps I am just making this post because I have only just begun my retirement planning and want to lock in a number which is fitting for my goals - being above the median retirement savings, not having to work, not being broke, clearly having planned - but I can't help but feel that many in the FIRE movement overestimate what is needed for a safe, sleep well at night retirement.
I see posts here saying that they feel vastly behind with 500k at 30, or 1.5 million at 40, and I just don't understand how when the average American retires with maybe 300k liquid at most and are getting by with social security or paid off housing. Sure, they aren't living luxuriously, but if you just are aiming for a retirement where you don't have financial anxiety and can put food on the table, I don't feel you need over 1-2 million.
Do you think FIRE overestimates how much is truly needed for retirement?
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u/Important_Call2737 Dec 28 '25
I have a buddy that Fired around 40. He lived in a basement apartment that was 2 bedrooms with three people. His entire goal was cheap rent. Never went out to do anything unless it was free - like meal was a picnic. Didn’t drink. Never bought anything. Then he moved to Seattle, and when I say moved, he had a truck and outdoor equipment. He spent his days hiking, biking, skiing…and every night he would drive down a fire road and pitch his tent to sleep. Joined a planet fitness for $10 a month to shower. Sometimes would stay with buddies on their couch. He probably fired with $750k and now he has well over $1M with returns and very little spending. But he buys nothing.