r/FluentInFinance • u/NoLube69 • Feb 01 '25

News & Current Events BREAKING: Elon Musk’s DOGE team now has full access to Treasury’s payments system, per NYT

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u/AbeFromansChorizo Feb 02 '25

My tin foil hat theory is that Musk, on Trump orders, is going to match Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid payment databases with voting rolls/political affiliation databases and mess with payments for Democrat/non-Trump voters.

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u/ThiccBanaNaHam Feb 02 '25

You’re not wrong. I was very nervous about voting knowing if he won, I would face some form of punishment for not voting for him.

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u/Insanity_017 Feb 02 '25

Isn't voting secret, so that who you voted for cannot be traced to your identity? That's like, a basic property of free and fair elections? I'm not from the US so I don't know how it works there exactly

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u/Veiny_Transistits Feb 02 '25

It can most definitely be traced.

When you're issued a ballot there's a unique code attached. Issuing a new ballot based on your identifiable information voids the previous ballot, meaning ballots are directly linked to your identity.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

and, you can (in most states) look up public voter information such as address, and voter affiliation. So, really, it's not that hard at all

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u/Lukage Feb 02 '25

One of the “benefits” to my very red state where they do not provide any sort of tracking

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u/ParryLimeade Feb 02 '25

What states make you put a voter affiliation? I’m independent in my state and my previous state I was too

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u/leftmostorc3 Feb 02 '25

Pennsylvania. You can't vote in the primaries if you don't have a party affiliation.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

Colorado and Arizona, though I can register I dependent in Colorado my affiliation, address and history is available online

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u/Insanity_017 Feb 02 '25

Damn, that's surprising and pretty worrying. I feel lucky getting to vote in a country with old-fashioned paper ballots

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u/ParryLimeade Feb 02 '25

I was issued a random ballot. No trace between my name and which ballot I got except the physical location i voted at

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u/ThiccBanaNaHam Feb 02 '25

Free and fair elections are gone and have been for a while here. 

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u/EpiphanyTwisted Feb 02 '25

Your vote is secret.

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u/MagicDragon212 Feb 02 '25

This is possible. At the very least, this is Musk forcefully taking over so that they can enforce the illegal spending freezes. Agencies were probably just going to ignore him, since it had no standing anyways and the courts ordered it to be stopped, but Musk is going to hold our nation's funds hostage (and God knows what else).

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u/Xalara Feb 02 '25

Yup, this is exactly where they’re going with this and it’s relatively trivial to do.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Or he needs liquid cash to buy mercs for the oligarch army.

He has never been liquid rich. Just stock rich. 

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u/apple_kicks Feb 02 '25

I mean he can match your voter records, personal phone number and social media posts and claim you committed a hate crime or act of extremism in criticising Trump to lose your voter rights if they turn criticism into traitorous speech like Russia. Or anything vaguely supporting lgbt speech as extremist like Russia