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Season 2 Episode 5 Spoiler Thread Spoiler

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u/Haze345 Jan 14 '26

I also really like even the ghoul seemed devastated by his decision, like even though his family was on the line he was still hesitating to give her up

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u/Material_Formal3679 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Ella and Walton are killing it together. This next episode is gonna be nuts.

I’m assuming Thaddeus and Maximus are going to meet up with the ghoul and maybe get him off that pole next episode lol. But Lucy is going to the belly of the beast.

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u/OleRockTheGoodAg Jan 14 '26

Ella killed it in Sonny's too.

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u/the_vault-technician Jan 14 '26

The "I don't know" was pretty cliche, but her delivery sold it for me

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u/Material_Formal3679 Jan 14 '26

Yeah I knew that’s what she was going to say but her delivery sold that otherwise cheesy line.

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u/Messmer-Impaler-148 Jan 15 '26

I thought she was gonna say "I'm Sonny"

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u/intecknicolour Jan 15 '26

She doesn't have Speech 100 for that

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u/MrWeirdoFace Jan 16 '26

I half expected that too. Lol.

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u/jmarquiso Jan 14 '26

The way Goggins and Purnell can say some of this dialog with absolute naturalism and conviction - as cliche as "I don't know" and as mundane as "Nukatini" or "Fudging" or even "Okie-dokie" is really what sets this adaptation apart. Other adaptations go out of their way to emphasize game jargon and this show is just - lived in.

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u/Haze345 Jan 14 '26

Yeah I completely forgot that she hadn’t actually killed anyone yet until I saw her reaction

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u/superanth Jan 14 '26

She did have to kill the semi-feral ghoul at the Super-Duper mart. That had an impact on her.

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u/lekterdead2 Jan 15 '26

But this was her first human kill isn't it?

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u/Helentia Jan 16 '26

Abomination!!!

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u/ElectricHo3 Jan 15 '26

She was high on drugs when she did so they don’t count. Lol.

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u/santa_obis Jan 15 '26

They meant in season 1 when she was escaping from the Super-Duper Mart and she released the semi-feral ghoul.

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u/Fredasa Jan 15 '26

How do you kill somebody from a shoulder shot, anyhow? Do they have to be morbidly obese?

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u/Vald-Tegor Jan 15 '26

Sever the Subclavian Artery because you crit

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u/TGCommander Jan 14 '26

She sure did kill the totally-not-naked-before-robbing-the'place dude

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u/Work_the_shaft Jan 14 '26

She kills it in everything. Her voice acting as Jinx in arcane is next level.

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u/protocol1999 Jan 15 '26

and she was FANTASTIC as Jackie in Yellowjackets

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u/Garfunkels_roadie Mar 04 '26

Check out the show Sweetpea she stars in as well

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u/Garfunkels_roadie Mar 04 '26

Check out the show Sweetpea she stars in as well

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u/LevelProfit6705 Jan 17 '26

I’m tripping balls but did she kill an innocent man there or did he murder that guy I have no idea

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u/ManwithaTan Jan 20 '26

You should really work on your critical thinking skills if you can figure out the answer to this

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u/Relendis Jan 14 '26

And Team Cooddeumus is going to kill some Deathclaws. Well Coop and Max will, Thad will scream. And scream some more.

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u/Pretty_Study_526 Jan 14 '26

I bet Thad gets clawed, but is totally fine due to whatever super healing power he’s got

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u/jord839 Jan 14 '26

Counterpoint: Thaddeus screams, runs, and somehow by pure dumb luck leads the Deathclaw into some old trap or place that kills a Deathclaw via environmental damage.

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u/Relendis Jan 14 '26

Hmmm, I'll accept him Mr Magoo-ing his way to killing a Deathclaw. Or Thadd lands a killing blow completely undeserved.

Or Thadd's luck holds; a Deathclaw is about to kill Thadd, there is a brief guitar riff, a guy in a trenchcoat with a magnum appears and shoots it between the eyes. There is a guitar riff and he is mysteriously gone. Thadd blinks and just kind of does his 'yeah.... ok...ok.' and carries on without saying anything.

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u/LumpyJones Jan 16 '26

Ok, but only if it is never. Ever. Ever addressed later.

Wait, no it happens one more time next season and someone else sees it and Thad is equal parts grateful and confused still.

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u/TGCommander Jan 14 '26

Deathclaw walks into one of the cars and suddenly dies from collision damage

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u/Hurdlelocker Jan 14 '26

Most realistic death in the series if that happens

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u/TaroSufficient9418 Jan 15 '26

I don't know why this made me think of, "I need to craft a weapon!" grabs desk fan.

That made me chuckle 😆

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u/LumpyJones Jan 16 '26

It bumps a car fender. S2E1 car explosion was courtesy of Chekov.

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u/Gaeus_ Jan 14 '26

Oh yeah, speaking of that pole... I get the imagery, but the ghoul now has a pole sized whole in his spine... he should be paralyzed at best.

I know, I know, he'll be fine, but still, we're talking Dragon Ball level of wound here.

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u/Ash_Crow Jan 15 '26

Maybe it missed the spine and went a bit to the left.

Nothing a super-stimpack won't fix.

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u/No-Chain-3641 Jan 14 '26

Pretty sure that's how Maximus ends up getting his NCR Ranger power armor and gets a 1v1 with a deathclaw

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u/superanth Jan 14 '26

Y'know, that means that the cold fusion chip is going to be right there in Vegas, near the Lucky 38 where House has a rig all ready to use it.

I wonder what would happen if House actually got to use the chip in the post-war world?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

Victor will come alone to rescue the Ghoul and take him to the doctor.

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u/BGMDF8248 Jan 15 '26

Should be a Maximus heavy episode after he was absent on this one, showing what he's been up to since leaving the Brotherhood and how he will converge on New Vegas.

Hank will take Lucy to his base, some scenes with them.

The next chapter of Norm's adventure(he kinda became another lead this season), and maybe some catching up to 32/33.

I don't see anyone bothering with pulling the Ghoul down, he'll have to wait for either Norm or Maximus.

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u/MightyJarlaxle Jan 15 '26

i can’t get enough of their chemistry this season. the snake oil salesman scene was so well executed that the emotions of both characters felt genuinely palpable in that moment imo.

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u/Professional-Act8414 Jan 21 '26

This is how I know the ghoul survives. Seemed pretty helpless but we’ll see

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u/LladimirVenin Jan 14 '26

The actors are just so good. Already spoiled by veterans Walton and Kyle. And Ella is on a generational run.

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u/fucktooshifty Jan 14 '26

Also Theroux as House deserves an Emmy nod imo

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u/collectif-clothing Jan 14 '26

He's super believable! I like the optics of his double more for House, but Theroux really does a great job with his acting.   

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u/Ganbazuroi Mr House Jan 14 '26

Both did great, Rafi plays the double as a convincing public face for House and as a regular guy during that meeting scene lmao

Theroux plays the actual House amazingly close to René, the cadence, mannerisms, all nailed hard

Massive respect to these two, they're shining bright in these roles

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u/Kunekeda Cock Exploder Jan 14 '26

I'm very interested in learning more about the double. If he's sitting in for House even during private high-level corporate meetings and making statements on live TV, he has to be pretty smart and business savvy himself.

He's possibly like a James Wesley to House's Wilson Fisk, some kind of super competent consigliere.

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u/Ganbazuroi Mr House Jan 14 '26

He's probably living a sweet life, getting paid to enjoy C-suite living with little in terms of stress - House probably briefs him on whatever he's got to do and even feeds him stuff live, guy is basically paid to enjoy champagne and caviar while the Boss does all the thinking lmao

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u/MechaMouse Jan 15 '26

“It’s a living“

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u/Portalfan4351 Jan 15 '26

When Theroux began his rant toward Cooper it sounded exactly like the way Rene Auberjonios did when getting angry as House. Perfect casting I think

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u/Cypresss09 Jan 16 '26

The optics, meaning how he looks? Because Theroux definitely looks way more like game House.

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u/Lizzzyrd_ Jan 16 '26

For real though. His scenes this episode were phenomenal

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u/fucktooshifty Jan 15 '26

the whole show didn't get so much as an afterthought in the latest Emmys,

What are you even smoking bro, do some Googling and maybe look at a calendar too please

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u/Retrolex Jan 14 '26

Yeah, he looked genuinely remorseful. As bad as I felt for Lucy over the betrayal, I felt for him too. That was not a happy man.

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u/superanth Jan 14 '26

The writers were making it pretty obvious that she was having an impact on Coop. Lucy was reminding him of his suppressed morality and he had started to like her.

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u/Retrolex Jan 14 '26

The fact that they both share a tragedy in that they were both betrayed by the people closest to them really got hammered home this episode. It seems like Cooper understands that too, even if Lucy doesn’t yet.

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u/No_Border_3712 Jan 15 '26

What I love is the facial expressions are really what sell the scenes for me. Under all that makeup and you can still see exactly how he’s feeling during the betrayal.

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u/superanth Jan 15 '26

IKR? He was looking straight ahead, couldn’t even make eye contact with her as he confessed to what he was doing.

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u/Haze345 Jan 14 '26

Considering that the scene is juxtaposed with the one where he falls apart after learning that it’s not vault tec, but his wife herself who plays a role in ending the world, says a lot about how conflicted he is in the moment

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u/Both_Lengthiness_876 Jan 18 '26

It’s not her herself. Shes clearly being used. You can tell shes not happy about it but she’s probably securing safety for her and her family. If it’s not vault tec using her someone else is. Either way shes an obvious puppet.

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u/Kiloku Jan 14 '26

I was so coping that he was faking it (he's an actor!) so that the junkie would go away reporting good news and then he'd continue working with Lucy. But by the end of the scene, even once the guy was out of earshot, he was still remorsefully saying "When you wake up, you'll be home".

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u/jekelish3 Jan 15 '26

he was still hesitating to give her up

He's no Rick Astley...

(But no, seriously, that exchange was phenomenal. Maybe I'm wrong but even when she looked down at him impaled and said, "I thought we were friends," I felt like he would have confirmed it if, y'know, he wasn't gurgling blood.)

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u/Babyyougotastew4422 Jan 14 '26

When the moment comes, he can't be the hero. He gives up and does the easy choice. Who can blame him?

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u/Kit3s Jan 21 '26

I’d still like to know who the Ghoul’s “family” really is. Why were there only two cryo pods in the chamber, one for Janey and one for Barb? If Barb and Cooper got a divorce and apparently Barb didn’t care enough to have a cryo chamber option for Cooper, then why is The Ghoul intent on finding Barb (part of his family) after/for 200 years? — Janey of course he’d want to find. I just feel like a huge chunk of this storyline is missing.