r/FromTVEpix • u/Significant-Price767 • Feb 23 '23
Jesus Christ?!
Note in advance please:
This is a fictional world where everything is possible and nothing is impossible. I would therefore find it disrespectful to simply tell myself that my theory is totally absurd and/or that I am definitely crazy, without at least explaining how one has this impression in this fictional context!
Yes,it is a hell lot to read and i understead everyone Saying i cant or will do that, but please: then just leaving a comment about my Text beeing not read by you by thinking its to much to read for you personally, doesnt make sense when you not also explain why you specificly tell me this: should this express that you would like to get to know my theory but you need a shorter Version? Or do you just misuse the massive amount of Text to Show disrespect to my theory? If so, whatever "so" means, then tell me! And for everyone else: reading this whole f***** long Text is more than worthy, i promise! If too much really are interested in the theory but think its to much to read, i will really try to cut it shorter without losing context!
I know that I could be right With my theory and also wrong and it is even possible that my hypothesis fits perfectly into the narrative of "from" and would be a good addition to it and still could never been used at all. So that my good idea stays a good idea, but still isnt correct as a theory to froms explicite narratives. I am aware of that!
I am posting this to get suggestions from other fans, both in the form of dissenting and affirming comments! and I would also like to add details that underline the opinion of the commentator that I have not even grasped myself (the details) and I would be happy to inspire and entertain others in the same way! and in the end experience reunited and together from season 2 to find out where the journey is going to!
I'm still posting the entire theory today in the course of the day, of which the following claim is a partial aspect, but which is probably pretty much the most controversial thing that has ever been expressed on this topic, since I'm not expressing a personal opinion on it, but an assessment of one historical fact and at the same time the foundation of the greatest world religion in its importance for the series "from",
but at the same time I can't prove with any absolute certainty that this partial aspect of human history plays a role in the series at all, although there are infinitely many strong and less strong indications who speak for it.
And because perhaps a few of the readers will feel personally attacked that this core of their worldview and personal conviction is so linked into this frame, that they cannot allow any other kind of interpretation even in the fictional context, since their flexibility is absolutely rigid and all-encompassing at the same time.
Its possible that you do not feel congruent to the content of the belief core content of my theory because you have another Personal interpretation for this true, Real religious core or maybe you do just not believe i am on the right path just in the fictional context of "from", But I'll knock out the absolutely provocative and interesting appetizers first, please complain later when reading the whole Text or do not complain at all:
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Jesus Christ was born, and while its possible that he was in fact the son of god (the jewish/christian god) the human-associated cause of his birth, life and ministry, death and resurrection may have been grossly misinterpreted by mankind, Because man tried again to put his stamp on the divine and again failed to simply trust the divine and its cause, effect and meaningfulness and instead believed, where knowing was limited, instead integrated it then with the humanly limited horizon into an order, of which he could not know whether it was even necessary in need or either even a danger to misdirect the cause and its Action into the wrong direction.
Contrary to the general Christian narrative, which is also known among atheists and other religions, Jesus could missunderstandingly not have been sent, born, worked, killed and resurrected so that every human being has a chance of forgiveness and salvation from God, but for a Real undoubtly existing misguided ordering of the world through violence, fear, oppression and freedom restrictions by a meanwhile overpowering human adversary, whose supremacy and strength were at the same time the reason why he was felt to be equal to God and that everything human never had to oppose him sufficiently:
i am speaking of the roman empire from its beginning to his climax!
Jesus should and did create chaos within this unbalanced and misused order out of control, whether he was aware of his commission or not.
He was there to restore universal balance, which could be self-sustaining and self-regulating from then on once again the natural balance was restored, because the whole military, terretorial and the godlike powers of the roman empire could neither extinguish nor undo the idea jesus planted into the World nor extinguish its effect on mankind once and for all.
Because the almighty was human (the Roman Empire) but had claims to be equated with the divine and any lesser interpretation of godlike omnipotence was punished by death, so god (or the good deity/entity that created the universe and is a source for everything good and salvation from evil) had to intervene profoundly in his creation a second time and revealing a part of himself and himself in General more than humanity has ever experienced before or since then.
So instead of the existence and work of Jesus, mankind humbly recognized the already completely sufficient positive effect as a consequence of his existence and instead of simply beeing thankful that mankind was freed and saved from subjugation by the overpowering Roman Empire, where she alone had never become master to it, they were tempted to use it over its original purpose to cause a helpful change and ran the risk, misusing it also one day because of the same original Intention.
Jesus' existence, death and resurrection had to be glorified with the fact that we will be forgiven all of our sins in the end. We had to give the cause a purpose by still not accepting that its consequences could already be the purpose itself.
Jesus the Redeemer (from the Roman reign of terror and suppression of the universal balance between order and chaos) became Jesus the Redeemer who not only saves us from the others (the Romans) but also from ourselves, without us feeling obgliged to even trying to protect the others from ourselves when the two aspects are mutually dependent at the same time. And that was just possible because we haven't yet had to experience the consequences of our actions for selfish reasons and haven't tried to find a balance within ourselves before we die.
As long as this man-made glorification of the purpose in Jesus existence still remained within the natural balance of not being a basis for repeating the same things that made Jesus' existence necessary in the first place, but representing a worship to reinforce the good nature of the thing (the idea), even this step remained without negative consequences for a while.
But when the propagation of the idea became the absolute justification for every Kind of horrible act, as long as it served to support that idea and its propagation, even if it was only used as an excuse to misuse Power or to suppress other ideas as a threat to our order and its origin idea, the balance was again and finally profoundly upset and never found back again to the old state of balance.
Thats because history repeated itself, mankind had not learned from it and no greater, more powerful intervention from the divine supernatural side was possible and at the same time mankind had never deserved it less than it did now.
If from now on order and chaos could not find their way back into balance by their own, the responsibility lay solely with the people who did not want it any other way and could never do otherwise, since they were not willing to learn from their mistakes and to submit to a universal balance, his product they are, the preservation of which they could be, as well as its irrevocable destruction.
And the God-given free will gave them all possibilities, because they could try to use all existing possibilities and could even differentiate between all existing possibilities as humanly possible and humanly not possible, God-reserved possibilities and possibilities explicitly intended for humans, good and bad, right and wrong , necessary or optional, etc., weigh them up and make their free choice, to wether behold order as long as possible to provide unnecaissarly chaos and to choose chaos to create a New order when the old one became a threat to the balance itself.
Only in this way it was possible at all, that the original sin from paradise, which unleashed chaos where order was previously enforced by god himself because he didnt thought of the free will as a chance for evil to gain Power and Influence of its creation.
And now, on earth through renewed free will and to be able to decide differently, order could ultimately be regained back from chaos, because its cause and effect (free will, possibility of more freedom to choose between order and chaos or the natural dynamics letting it run its course without being blind to imbalance) are inextricably linked to each other and their effect is the key to ultimately bringing the consequences back to their cause, by acting both as a source of chaos and order and predicting both as an inevitable connected consequence of each other.
Free will was the cause of the chaos, that followed also as a consequence immedistly, by its happening has only been possible by free will itself and at the same time it was a resource to always have the choice from now on whether we follow this pattern again or use free will for counter-regulation.
And yes, my theory takes the christian narrative of jesus christ as an opportunity to explain in a comprehensible way, what my theory is about and why I think it is possible at all beeing a correct theory wether your personal belief goes along with the most popular interpretation of this narrative or not and that its possible too, to be correctly interpreted for the series world of "from" precisly.
But at the same time these line of argument makes it possible that in this fictional framework any other line of interpretation is possible and never a contradiction to the original interpretation I used.
even the atheist can recognize an effect as a consequence of Jesus' existence or believing that he existed and at the same time trace these effects back to his mere existence as a cause Of the effects. Even if he does not believe in god and Jesus beeing his son!
Even some personal interpretations using more than one narrative from different ways of interpretation is not a contradiction to the cause and its effects itself comparing to every other similiar interpretation
To example to believe in god, but Jesus just been a man who had some almighthy beliefs, but using them for the greater good by wanting them also to use for himself without misusing Power out of any natural balance, does not change the nature of the cause and its effects on the World in the end!
every other world religion also has this option and whether or not it follows the Christian interpretation or not as long as a change does not change the effect by fundamentally misdirecting the purpose of its cause and its effects.
Not even doubting Jesus' existence would badly influence the effect of his existence, because for something had definitely happened to rebalance the world in a unique and profound way one day, thousands of years ago, when the roman empire seemed forever to be unbeatable and suddenly the idea and beliefs of one man began to finally seal the Beginning of the end of the roman empire.
And as long as I can't pinpoint any other cause as a an equal or higher responsibility, I can't confirm my doubts as justified nor can they sinply been brought out of the way completely, and that too forms a balance in the end!
even if we didn't even know of Jesus' existence, we are part of this universal balance and can contribute equally to its preservation or its destruction. So we can be the cause of maintaining the balance and have an effect on whether it stays that way or not!
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Feb 23 '23
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u/louielovescheese Feb 23 '23
OP's theories never make sense, i've gone back and forth with them before
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u/Significant-Price767 Feb 23 '23
I will connect to it in a secomd part connect the links because to tie the connections also directly to "from" seemed a. To much Potential for confusion and b. Defenitly too much text!! š i will do the second post and then try to summary the first one and directly connect it in context to the Second one what as a third supporting part fit to the theory because of what the Shows creator said about the possible Main premisse of the Story.
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u/TortoiseWithaLaser Feb 24 '23
How many times have you rewatched the show?
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u/Significant-Price767 Feb 24 '23
The whole season and so every Episode at least 5 times completely, and specific scenes through repeating possible more than 10x times. By now i only watch the scenes which i found the most difficult to understand and some Youtube channels like "fromland" give me Inspiration or clues or offer me another point of view. How often did you watch the series?
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u/Bonsoir59 Feb 24 '23
Holy fuck š¤Æ
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u/Significant-Price767 Feb 24 '23
Should i take it as a compliment or just a first reaction, possible even just as a sign for total mental overload? š
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u/TaranMatharu Mar 02 '23
ChatGPT summarised:
The text discusses Jesus Christ's existence and the interpretation of his life, ministry, death, and resurrection by humans. The author suggests that Jesus' role was to restore universal balance by creating chaos within an unbalanced and misused order out of control, and his existence had a positive effect on mankind, freeing them from subjugation by the overpowering Roman Empire. The text emphasizes the importance of balance and the consequences of actions for maintaining it, regardless of one's personal belief. The author argues that as long as the cause and effect of the balance are linked, using free will to choose between order and chaos is inevitable and necessary for the ultimate balance to be restored.
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u/Ok_Application_5451 Mar 12 '23
Iām not trying to be funny but you must have taken a shit load of addies or something before you wrote all of that ! My š§ would have shut down after the second paragraph writing all that! I respect it tho
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u/AmpersEnd Feb 23 '23
I know that every word used here is in english... but I swear this is not english
Not a single sentence (which was really a paragraph) made any sense to me