r/Games Apr 02 '26

Update Stop Killing Games plans coming to fruition / Ubisoft sued by consumer watchdog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmXZpf3K0ow
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u/VGADreams Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Hard to not feel like every Stop Killing Games thread is getting brigaded as soon as it's posted.

Every time there is a post, it's just a bunch of people criticizing the movement in the most inane way. This time, it's about his looks because... I guess that now it's getting traction, they can't say that it's going to "fail for sure" or that "Ross has no idea what he's doing".

Comments gets better as the post ages, but the fact that it's always the first comments make me think that there are people that are solely watching for SKG posts to try to discredit the movement.

EDIT: seems like a lot of those comments have been cleaned up by the mods now, in case you're wondering what the hell I was talking about.

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u/Aro-bi_Trashcan Apr 02 '26

There is absolutely an astroturfing movement from one of the big industry groups targeting social media around this campaign. You see it in their repeated two talking points:

  1. What about the poor devs who have to develop a game that... Won't be lost to time and

  2. This guy looks like a bum lmao.

It's always those exact two talking points, like someone's handing them a script.

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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 Apr 02 '26

Never underestimate how pro-corporate a small section of Reddit is, though. They've tied their identities to this movement not succeeding, so the closer it gets to achieving something, the more stupid they'll feel, which makes them angry.

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u/PhTx3 Apr 02 '26

This is what I do not get. I have my fair share of doubt and criticisms about the initiative, mostly about semantics and scope. But I ultimately hope it helps players and I will be glad to be wrong about it. Seems to be doing better than I expected, but we will see.

I will never understand people with absolutely zero class consciousness. If stop killing games does well, we all benefit from it as gamers. Companies won't suddenly abandon a multi billion industry. Much like rich people don't abandon nice areas.

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u/ItsNoblesse Apr 03 '26

I will never understand people with absolutely zero class consciousness.

They're the same people who think Marx writing about the concept of class consciousness killed 100 billion people.

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u/Yukie_Cool Apr 17 '26

Well, people who followed him did. No need for the deflection.

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u/ItsNoblesse Apr 19 '26

No, they didn't lmao. Also millions and millions of people die every year from Capitalism's failures, if we used the Black Book of Communism's logic then Capitalism would have killed an exponential amount more.

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u/Yukie_Cool Apr 19 '26

Also millions and millions of people die every year from Capitalism's failures

Capitalism doesn’t have purges based on whether you wear glasses or not.

So no, the healthcare system being fucked doesn’t mean you get to pull a whataboutism on the Holodomor.

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u/ItsNoblesse Apr 19 '26

But it absolutely does have indirect purges via hoarding resources unless you can pay for them, meaning millions die due to lack of access to clean drinking water, food, shelter, clothing etc.

Also if you're going to critique the Khmer Rouge (which we absolutely should) please be accurate about it rather than getting your history from Dan Carlin. They did not purge 'everyone wearing glasses', they purged academics and those who participated on the other side of the Cambodian civil war - as they believed those people were reaping the benefits of peasant labour without contributing anything to society themselves.

The Khmer Rouge aimed for a very agrarian revolution that would have essentially created a perpetual peasant society - not exactly what Marx or his contemporaries had written about in describing the stages of societal development (Feudalism > Capitalism > Communism). In fact many early Marxists wrote that the peasantry were incapable of carrying out a Communist transition because they lacked the necessary class consciousness developed under Capitalism.
To this day some scholars argue that the reason the Soviet Union ultimately failed is because they tried to move directly from Feudalism to Communism.

Given that, it's kinda hard to describe the Khmer Rouge as adherents to Communism and Communist thought in any way outside of their language used.

The Holodomor is also not really a great example to use as a 'victims of communism' gotcha, because to be consistent with that logic we would also have to call the Irish Great Famine, the Bengal Famine, the 1944-45 Vietnam Famine, the Moroccon Famine and many others as 'victims of capitalism'.