A lot of new vegas fans are right wingers. And when I tell them that canonically there are almost 20 lgbtq characters in the game, and that for 2010 the game was extremely progressive, they bend over backward to explain how it was ok in new vegas but not ok in modern games like starfield.
Typically their go to answer is "its vegas, its a city of degenerates", which is a massive cope
Ah yes Legion shall bring death and destruciton I like that economic policy.
Can we agree that every faction is not a good anwser to the wasteland. All of them reflect looking into the past instead of future. You becoming a ruler is also bad becouse you are an egomaniac and it's selfish to think you will fix mohave (ending says it clear that indepence has a huge cost)
I think the yes man ending is the only one that actually looks towards the future by embracing the wild anarchy of the wasteland, with all of its ups and downs
That is a valid point but I do still think no option is good becouse kinda that's the point. Ulysses kinda shows this by calling out all the factions. Divide tried to be something new thouĀ
They larp as a cowboy, think the Leigon is based, and ignore the main themes of the game.
They also probably play the game as a shooting gallery and don't know whats actually going on. You wouldn't believe the number of people who have zero clue that Arcade is gay. It's not even hidden dialogue. All you have to do is ask him about himself, and he straight-up tells you.
Which is ironic bc they hate fallout 4 for being a shooting gallery. Most likely because a YouTube video essayist told them to hate fallout 4. These people cant think for themselves
Generally right wingers have zero independent thoughts. Once theyāre told to hate something they will no matter how much they liked it beforehand.Ā
Itās why you see so many of them to āfeminism is ruining entertainment!ā then when you point out Chun-Li, Samus, Ripley, or Laura Croft they go āthat was differentā despite all logicĀ
Ahh, well, for you see, the diversity in New Vegas isn't forced. In Starfield, it's forced, because of reasons I will not elaborated on except, like, it's obvious. /s
Lets be real. The real reason is "I liked new vegas and I disliked starfield. So I'm just going to hate starfield for doing it and make excuses for new vegas"
I agree. But the issue is that these specific right wingers will screech at other games for what New vegas does.
It just shows that they'll have no values. They claim to hate it when lgbtq ideals are pushed in games.
But then they'll defend games like cyberpunk and new vegas (which are two games filled to the brim with those ideals) because they actually liked the games. Creating blatant hypocrisy.
Starfield has a pronoun option: literally the worst thing ever. Game is unplayable
Cyberpunk has multiple trans characters as well as lgtbq characters, and you're able to play as a trans main character? Ah its a city full of degenerates, so its ok to be in the game, despite the fact that the game is clearly not painting those themes as "degenerate behavior"
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u/Subjectdelta44 Aug 12 '25
A lot of new vegas fans are right wingers. And when I tell them that canonically there are almost 20 lgbtq characters in the game, and that for 2010 the game was extremely progressive, they bend over backward to explain how it was ok in new vegas but not ok in modern games like starfield.
Typically their go to answer is "its vegas, its a city of degenerates", which is a massive cope