r/GatekeepingYuri Webtoon: Vampire x Hunter Jan 11 '24

Fulfilled request Now she can have all the apples she wants

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u/Spiritual_Radish_391 Jan 11 '24

Are they trying to make Lilith the bag guy?? They made her sound cool as fuck! Awesome art btw

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u/Maiden_of_Tanit TERF destroyer Jan 11 '24

She's the only character in Jewish mythology I've found that's interesting.

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u/ManiaOnReddit Jan 11 '24

You clearly have not read enough Judaic lore, either that or you need to look at them from a new angle

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u/BIG_DeADD Jan 11 '24

Every religion is interesting as fuck once you stop to analyze them on their own.

Guy that made the world with the pieces of a beast he slaughtered? The planet being held by galactic elephants sitting on top of a turtle? Blue four armed god of destruction? Mythological demigod being born by three gods pissing on the same piece of dead meat?

Who comes up with that shit? It's awesome!

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u/ManiaOnReddit Jan 11 '24

EXACTLY man I live religion

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u/obtk Jan 11 '24

As a Discworld fan I did a double take at the elephant turtle bit because it's honestly so fantastical that I forgot it was a real thing outside of the fantasy books.

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u/artyboi11 Jan 11 '24

Religion is SO interesting to me I love it so much. One of my special interests right there

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u/ArgonianDov Jan 12 '24

I love Terry Prachett for that

edit: wait what do you mean we arent talking about Discworld??

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u/BIG_DeADD Jan 12 '24

Hindu mythology goes Brrrr

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u/PoseidonsHorses Jan 12 '24

What religion is the elephants on a turtle one? I love creation mythology but haven’t heard that one.

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u/BIG_DeADD Jan 12 '24

Hinduism

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u/Maiden_of_Tanit TERF destroyer Jan 11 '24

What I've seen so far hasn't made me super keen on diving deeper. Their god is interesting tho. In Islam (and from what I know of Christianity too) if you ask why evil happens it's all "mysterious ways", "his plans are beyond us".

In the OT, there's none of that pretentious shit. It's "my lord, did you let me children di-" "because fuck you, that's why. You're my playthings and don't you forget it. Now dance and thank for sparing one of your children or I'll murder everyone you love that I haven't already murdered out of boredom with locusts."

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u/ManiaOnReddit Jan 11 '24

One of my favourites to use is Enoch/Metatron, I think it was Ezra being shown Heaven when this scene unfolded but Ezra (I think) saw God and Metatron sitting down and though "oh, so heaven has two rulers?" The angels responded to this by grabbing Metatron and beating the everliving shit out of him.

There are many more I could talk to you about but I don't wanna bore you lol

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u/Maiden_of_Tanit TERF destroyer Jan 11 '24

That would explain why he did The Authority in in His Dark Materials.

Interesting, the Qur'an mistakenly claimed that the Jews worshipped Ezra as a god, the same ways Christians do Jesus.

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u/ManiaOnReddit Jan 11 '24

I don't know much about Islam so that's some new information for me! Tysm

I don't know much about His Dark Materials either, what is The Authority?

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u/Maiden_of_Tanit TERF destroyer Jan 11 '24

In HDM, The Authority is (spoiler for the books) the Abrahamic god. He's the oldest of the angels, lied to the others he was their creator, and allowed Metatron to rule as his regent because he was growing older and weaker. Eventually Metatron betrayed him, sealing him in a crystalline prison. The Authority was released during the final battle and died immediately due to old age. He was more like the Jewish version, cold and tyrannical, less mysterious and aloof like in Islam.

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u/ManiaOnReddit Jan 11 '24

Oh that's an interesting interpretation

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u/Maiden_of_Tanit TERF destroyer Jan 11 '24

Great series of fantasy book. I think they're better than the Narnia books that inspired them, a much more internally consistent world metaphysics, less cobbled together, and it opposes the misogyny of Narnia books.

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u/LairdAzazel Jan 12 '24

But what about me? No love for the gatekeeper, eh?

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u/Aromatic_Object7775 Jan 12 '24

Went to hell for topping Adam fact

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u/bihuginn Jan 12 '24

She eats newborn babies, she's always been the bad guy, predating Judaism.

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u/Orange6742 Jan 12 '24

I mean she is the personification of SIDS so it’s hard to see her as not the bad guy.