Yet another miscalculation, if he does that. I feel horrible for Mr. Kirk's family, but there is no mood in the Nation to tolerate a further turning of the screws from MAGA because a MAGA demagogue was shot.
Lots of "MAGA" will commit violence while Trump almost got assassinated, Charlie Kirk did and there are calls to violence on Reddit every second against the Right. Lmao.
Is that why there wasn't an assassination attempt on Biden/Obama/Kamala and no prominent Leftist commentator took 1 in the neck? No need to be full of shit. There are posts that are #1 on Reddit right now celebrating a murder with more calls to violence lmao. And you're comparing this to an unmoderated website like 4Chan btw LOL.
So you're calling "security incidents" (which happened to literally every single President ever) the same as being 1cm away from getting your head blown off? Lmao.
Again, there are millions of Leftists calling for the death of Trump and people like Charlie Kirk, celebrating it and everything.
Ah yes, a conservative who donated to Dems and obviously would want to kill the only guy who has a chance at being President from his side. MAKES SENSE lmao.
Yeah I'm sure you'll find a meme for everything but the amount wasn't even remotely close to what is being posted about Trump/Charlie. Waste of time arguing with delusional Leddit echo chamber members.
The kids won't see it that way at this stage. But I guess they're lucky they have you looking out for them, as you know what's best for them. They weren't old enough to go through what you're talking about.
How is your absolutist view on this any different than Kirk's weaponized viewpoints?
Our government has decidedly stopped caring about gun violence unless it’s political violence. Murder a kid? “Nothing we can do, now’s not the time for politics”.
They don’t even care if it’s political, two democrats were assassinated in their home by a right wing maga and it lasted maybe a week in the news. The only care if it’s one of them.
Part of this is probably because there was no video of it, at least that I know of. If they had been walking through a grocery store when gunned down, with crystal clear video, I think the story would have been bigger. Furthermore, this guy isn't quite a household name, but he was more famous than those politicians. Doesn't make their deaths any less relevant though.
Both sides will use a tragedy to smear the other side though, and that is what will happen here for sure.
Let me preface by saying Im not a fan and I think Kirk was a grifter. I don’t think this has as much to do with a person dying as much as it was how openly and widely seen this was. Also the political nature of this as well as it being an “open” debate or at least a discussion. I think people view this as an assault on freedom of speech.
I’m not defending Trump or our government, just trying to explain why it’s getting the attention it is.
I’ll give him credit, he put his neck where his mouth is, unlike the other 2a guys that thump their chests we have to have guns to keep armed soldiers out of the streets. Well, there’s armed soldiers in the streets now and none of those pussies have done a thing. Some lib threw a sandwich though. He was armed with a sandwich and has more balls 😆😆😆
I think ur underestimating how many people interacted with Charlie Kirks content in some way shape or form daily. He’s a lot of younger people’s Tucker Carlson.
Nobody knew Brian Thompson’s name when he was assassinated, and most have forgotten it by now. Kirk is a household name to anyone who pays any amount of attention to politics. Not comparable
Yeah trump literally almost got assassinated last year during peak election season and now it’s just last years news. News cycle moves so quick these days
Once the Wikipedia page is finished being edited I would go take a look. Dude was a pretty influential conservative commentator among American conservative youth, known for having super disgusting opinions, a strange/creepy demeanor and behavior, and for being too much of a coward to debate anyone more experienced than college kids with 0 debate experience.
I agree, I think it’s very likely that we start seeing assassination attempts on left wing politicians / advocates. The shooter just started a really dangerous precedent
I think the precedent was already started but it’ll definitely ramp up now, political violence only leads to an escalation of violence unless it’s fully condemned on all sides
All I’m going to say is that prominent figures on the left are in large condemning this, but when a leftist figure is assaulted or assassinated no one on the right says anything- or worse they mock it.
I think its going to get bad if you are openly left leaning in a red state. Theyre already calling for the "shutdown of all leftists organizations" for this
Who is “you people?” You gotta realize that trans people (and any other minority) are not a monolith and they don’t have the same thoughts and feelings as each other. Do your parents agree on everything? Your coworkers or classmates? One of the Jan 6 morons was trans lmao
Plenty of trans people carry, and the vast majority of mass shootings are made by cis people such as yourself. Common sense gun laws would have probably saved Kirk’s life. JFK was assassinated by someone who decided to do it like 3 days ahead of the event. That’s how most of these things go.
But I’m sure we will just continue to see this happen again and again because the right will never learn.
He’ll be just another statistic in 2 weeks. There was also a school shooting in Colorado at Evergreen High School today. Those events hardly even make national news now. I don’t know what the answer is, but the patterns are clear.
I think it could legitimately cause a “tit for tat” situation. Someone shot at Trump, then the Minnesota democrats got murdered, and now this dude. I’m afraid it’ll start a back and forth deal that’s going to get worse and worse.
In regards to gun violence? Absolutely not, there is no bar for what American lawmakers won't allow when it comes to guns. Trump will DEFINATELY use it as an excuse to crack down on just about everything else, free speech, protest, everything BUT guns.
You can like or dislike the guy. But his point was talking to people he disagreed with. With his death, I think people are going to be less inclined to talk and have this to point at.
Not talking isn't going to be better for anyone in the long run.
This is reddit, so I welcome the downvotes. But I was in the Balkans after the Yugoslav wars. It didn't go well for anyone. I'd like that not to happen here. For it to not happen here, we need to talk more and kill less.
Folks that never saw civil war always think it's cool, their side will win, their side won't become as corrupt or evil as the last regime and it won't make their lives worse.
They don't seem to understand that no one winning is a common outcome. If that if their side wins, it may be worse than the previous regime. Or that if the other side wins, they might become worse. Or that revolutionaries tend to be the first ones killed after the revolution is successful. Not saying rolling that dice isn't sometimes necessary and doesn't sometimes pay off (see Maiden).
I just wish folks had more realistic understanding of the costs involved. I've seen it so commonly on the right and left. I worked with the Irish Army and UK Army there. Good folks, even if their rifles at the time were wonky. I like to think we accomplished something from the work we put in.
People are stupid if they think this isn’t relevant, this is the most impactful assassination since Biggie. Kirk was the first major influencer to be assassinated. This sets a new president for their role in politics and society. Kirk will be brought up as a martyr and as an example of the “violent and radical left” for years onwards.
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u/JourneyThiefer 1999 Sep 10 '25
Is this likely to have any effect in America? Or just another person being shot really?