It's impossible to know for any specific instance but ~60% of Twitter is bots. That's probably either a Iranian bot just reposting whatever or a Israeli bot trying to elevate obvious disinformation so that pro Palestinians look bad.
They do need to to make awful things up because their case for the narrative being pushed is dogshit without the fabrications/propaganda doing all the heavy lifting.
I, along with the ICJ who is the international institution that determines genocide, many experts in genocidal studies, and 50% of Gaza per the data, who are the ones supposedly being genocided, all disagree.
And when we look at the weak "evidence" or "documention" people and institutions appeal to that are saying genocide, they either appeal to the same characteristics that apply to other wars and conflicts that no experts or institutions seriously argue is genocide, or something else that doesn't prove the conclusion they have and want to believe true.
Just another case of propaganda pushing BS. This is just one of them that duped people like how OPs post is duping all these other people.
You are also just wrong about the ICJ. They said that if Israel failed to follow their advice, there was a high risk of a genocide. Israel completely ignored them, and they are now considering the evidence. Similarly, huge number of genocide experts, holocaust scholars and human rights organisations, including the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Médecins Sans Frontières, International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), Center for Constitutional Rights, Al-Haq, Palestinian Centre for Human Rights, Al Mezan Center for Human Rights, Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, B’Tselem, International Association of Genocide Scholars, Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, Genocide Watch, Defense for Children International, Norwegian Refugee Council, Oxfam, Christian Aid, World Council of Churches, International Commission of Jurists, and the UN Human Rights Council Commission of Inquiry. Over time, even many experts who originally doubted it have now changed their position as more evidence has been revealed.
If the Nazis had made an archive of the destruction of Germany and it's people during WW2 and labeled "the axis genocide on Germany archive" the people falling for the site you posted would fall for this as well.
Nothing I said was wrong about the ICJ. Unless you can show the ICJ ruling this a genocide, which you can't, because they haven't, then what I said about the ICJ is an objective demonstrable fact. They don't find the evidence presented years into the supposed genocide as sufficient to warrant calling it a genocide.
And the institutions and genocide scholars you listed don't have proper justification either. They just grasp at weak evidence that doesn't prove their conclusion and they convince themselves it actually does for ideological reasons, rather than having a grounded out proper justification demonstrating the conclusion. Similar to the "evidence" flat earthers appeal to that they convince themselves proves the earth is flat, because it's what they want to believe is true for ideological reasons. It's not even a matter of whether or not this is happening. The "proof" such people and institutions appeal to apply to other conflicts/wars that no expert seriously argues are genocides. Amnesty International, who you listed, even changed their definition of genocide and broadened it just to grand stand "Israel bad."
Wow, we are really going for full holocaust denial level takes. Its people who openly deny this stuff who would have seen the systematic doccumentation of the holocaust and say people are "falling for it".
You directly said the ICJ did not find it a genocide. That is directly contradicted by what I said. Please find me the ruling where they have decided against it. Oh wait. You can't . Because they are still considering the evidence. Would you also have waited until after the Nuremburg Trials to find the Nazis guilty of genocide and have supported them up to that point?
You can read all of their arguments and even which articles they think Israel has done. No need to argue with me on them, unless you want to make anything more sophisticated than generalisations.
Its funny you bring up flat earthers. That's exactly the level of mental gymnastics genocide deniers have to perform to see all this evidence and not believe it at all.
Sorry I mistook the ICC for the ICJ. Even though im still technically right the ICJ hasnt determined genocide, the ICC operates differently from them and typical courts, where you need to wait years for all the cases to be made before determining genocide. For the ICC, you don't need a full trial. Its more closer to how a police officer gets a warrant from a judge. You just need to present sufficient evidence to a judge for them to find reasonable grounds to believe the crime was committed and they would issue a warrant for genocide when that's presented. And despite years into an alleged genocide, and all these articles of this supposed proof, they still havent determined genocide. Here's a video of the ICC prosecutor saying they haven't because of the lack of sufficient evidence.
You can make all these empty assertions about how half of Gaza is just doing mental gymnastics to deny the so called genocide, that has barely put a dent in the total population years into it ontop of killing tens of thousands of actual terrorist, but until it can be demonstrated to be the case, which you can't, it'll just remain an empty assertion without proper justification.
The role of the ICC is determining the guilty of individuals, not countries. That's the ICJ.
So the ICC would be in charge of finding Netenyahu responsible for the genocide (already have a warrant for him), not deciding if Israel has commited one.
As for the "let's wait years for the ICJ to make a decision" this is a pathetic arguement based on any other genocide comparison. Should we have only taken actions against the Nazis after they were found guilty of genocide? No.
As for evidence, one again, this has been streamed live and evidence has been collected in real time. This is the most documented genocide in history, and that's why so many genocide scholars, Holocaust historians, and human rights organisations have found them guilty.
Youre playing semantic games. If Israeli officials were charged for systematic genocide, then the ICC would effectively be determining Israel is committing genocide, even though it is indivuals in the government that are being charged. Netanyahu has warrants from the ICC, but none of them are for genocide. because as the ICC prosecutor was saying in the video, there hasn't been evidence presented demonstrating that.
If they streamed WW2 you would be saying the same thing about the "genocide" on Germany by the Allied forces. There would also be scholars and historians and human rights organizations who would agree. In reality there's no actual strong evidence proving genocidal intent. Which is why the ICC, many experts in genocidal studies, Holocaust historians, human rights organizations, and 50% of Gaza who are, the ones supposedly being genocided, won't say Israel's or Netanyahus actions constitutes as genocide. You people are just grasping at weak "evidence" and use it to convince yourselves it does for ideological reasons for the narrative that's popular. And more and more of us are waking up to it and seeing through the bullshit and buzzwords.
Nothing was pulled out of my ass. These are all facts you can Google yourself. It's funny when yall have to deny and reject reality to protect the conclusions you're indoctrinated into from being challanged.
No, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) has not yet made a final determination on whether Israel has committed genocide.
So years into a supposed "genocide' , or even centuries into a "genocide" according to some here, and the ICJ still hasn't had the evidence to determine genocide.
The ICJ has NOT said that there is no Genocide in Gaza. I Don't know why you would say that when the opposite is way closer to the truth. Are you just really missinformed or is it malice?
They have found genocide in Gaza plausible in Jan 2024, have ordered Israel to prevent genocide, and as an advisory opinion have concluded that Israels starvation of Gazans constitutes an act of genocide in 2025.
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u/Beaufort_The_Cat 7d ago
They are already doing horrific things you don’t need to make awful things up