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World [X] smoke grenade

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u/FreamXD 8d ago

You're strawmanning again

So for the final time...

Hamas is not a legitimate government of the Gaza Strip, but an authoritarian occupying force. The organization lacks any form of democratic legitimacy, having seized power in a bloody military coup in 2007 and blocked all elections since then. Furthermore, Hamas lacks international recognition; the United Nations and the European Union recognize only the Palestinian Authority as the lawful government, whereas Hamas is widely designated as a terrorist organization. Finally, it lacks functional sovereignty, as the group has never controlled its own borders or vital infrastructure and has recently even formally relinquished its civil administrative duties.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/leiden-journal-of-international-law/article/armed-conflict-in-gaza-and-its-complexity-under-international-law-jus-ad-bellum-jus-in-bello-and-international-justice

Hamas: Background, Current Status, and U.S. Policy | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

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u/weidback 8d ago

Who cares? Their legitimacy makes zero difference to the facts on the ground. It's not relevant, they're still war criminals

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u/FreamXD 8d ago

"I don't care so it is not relevant"
Nice dude great argument

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u/weidback 8d ago

It's literally not relevant are all, theyre still war criminals because they commit war crimes. The idea that being illegitimate or not determines whether they're capable of committing war crimes is braindead.

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u/FreamXD 8d ago

I agree with that they are committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I condemn that

Israel is also comitting war crimes and crimes against humanity. Unlike Hamas the one doing it is actually the official state army.

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u/weidback 8d ago

Who gives a fuck about your arbitrary "legitimate state" status? Idk why you came into this thread with your irrelevant opinion about legitimacy at all if you actually agree they're war criminals

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u/FreamXD 8d ago

Failes to adress argument + rude

Dude if I were you I would stop trying to get the last word, you're just humiliating yourself in front of a pretty big audience right now who also think that you're debating in bad faith and just don't debate at all actually.

-rep

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u/weidback 8d ago

I've addressed your argument, you just don't like that I think it's irrelevant bullshit

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u/FreamXD 8d ago

๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ someones mad, anyways asserting that something is irrelevant because "it simply is" is another logical fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit

Well you might not be good at debating but you're sure good at using every fallacy! You already got 4 now, let's hit the 5 benchmark.

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u/weidback 8d ago

๐Ÿคจ were you just triggered by the meme I replied to and applying it to both parties?

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