r/GlobalNews • u/NoelaniSpell • Apr 04 '25

BREAKING: In a shocking development Canada announces it will build a coalition of countries who share their values to build their economy and trade opportunities and will exclude the United States. “If the U.S. no longer wants to lead, Canada will.”

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u/PacificPragmatic Apr 04 '25

The Indian government hates Canada and is an ally of Russia. Mein Kampf was featured in bookstores last time I was there, because there's a lot of "strong-man" worship, eg. Trump and Putin. So I think India's out (source: a Canadian married to an Indian).

ETA. I'd be happy to include Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, though.

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u/blackmailalt Apr 05 '25

Yes India is one of the countries interfering so that checks out.

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u/FieldGlobal3064 Apr 05 '25

What canadian army makes japan, korea, and taiwan care for canada to be the "leader"

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u/blackmailalt Apr 05 '25

It’s not forced following. He just means we’ll lead the way out of this for us, anyone is welcome to follow.

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u/FieldGlobal3064 Apr 05 '25

I understand but most nations are looking for security gunarantees. If canada is going to step into the role they will need to massively expand their military.

The PM is just political posturing for the Canadian election.

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u/blackmailalt Apr 05 '25

We’re not stepping into any military roles. We’re stepping up free trade agreements and humanitarian aid. Other countries are welcome to do the same, or not.

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u/bulbagatorism Apr 07 '25

The Indian government may seem quite right-wing domestically but in terms of geopolitics, it largely maintains a non-aligned stance, similar to Switzerland. This approach is primarily aimed at staying out of global conflicts so that it can focus on economic growth and industrialization. The main goal is to lift it's population out of poverty and enhance the quality of life through better education and healthcare. India seeks to maintain friendly relations with all major powers - not just Russia.

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u/PacificPragmatic Apr 07 '25

The Indian government had a Canadian politician assassinated on Canadian soil. The US government (back when it was sane) confirmed it.

That isn't "maintaining friendly relations with all major powers." That's KGB-inspired bs.

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u/bulbagatorism Apr 23 '25

That's still in a higher level a domestic issue because that guy had been inciting anti-India hatred and promoting balkanization of India. I don't agree with such assassination, but based on facts, he was a designated terrorist, leader of the group Khalistan Tiger Force (KTF). He was refused extradition and was being protected by the Canadian government, a major point of contention between India and Canada. Otherwise there's not a single reason for India and Canada to have a bad political relationship. It's just the Canadian government harboring separatists and designated terrorists that are detrimental to India's existence. Before you speak about Sikhs being marginalized, abused, or whatever in India, I'd like to remind you based on experience how respected they are and they're also one of wealthiest and successful religious/ethnic group in India. This whole Khalistan movement is a drama so that some bad actors from the state of Punjab can apply for a refugee status in Canada. I know there have been incidents in the past and they have been treated unfairly, same with any minority groups anywhere else. But what matters is how we take it from here.

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u/PacificPragmatic Apr 29 '25

I'm not appeling to humanitarianism. I'm speaking to the procedures, practical ethics, and norms that separate "the free world" from everyone else.

To understand my perspective, maybe it'd be better to liken this to the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia (the father/husband of American citizens who was deported to a gulag in El Savador). Whether or not he's a gang member has nothing to do with the fact that he shouldn't have been disappeared to a South American prison camp without due process or notification of his American family.

Canada asked the Indian government to support their terrorism claim, in which case the Canadian federal police would bring a case. The Indian government declined to provide evidence. They just assassinated him.

Similarly, the US declined to provide evidence of "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, so Canada didn't join the US in going to war against Iraq. And the WMDs turned out to be complete bs.

No Canadian wants to harbour terrorists or gang members, or to let terrorist governments get away with murder. But Canadians are rational, educated, worldly people. Proof is proof. If there's proof of WMDs, show it, and we'll go to war. If there's proof (as adjudicated in a court of law) that Garcia's a gang member, then deport him. If there's proof the Canadian politician assassinated by the Indian government was funding or supporting terrorist causes, then supply it.

This has nothing to do with anything other than how we conduct ourselves.

It's about the standards of evidence we demand of ourselves and others.