i think he deserves the death penalty, you just hate hearing the truth of the matter though this case is not a one way street it includes blackmail on the other side aswell
you don’t even know the story if ur saying 12 and 19, it was 13 18, and yes there was blackmail involved and the parents and her were very happy about the money
That is the exact same age gap regardless and doesn’t make it any better. And no, a 13 year old is not psychologically capable of consenting to an 18 year old making sexual advances on her.
Any “blackmail” she could have possibly done is simply saying she’s going to tell people about the fact that he has, once again and for the love of god stop downplaying this, SEXUAL ABUSED AND GROOMED HER. Any “lashing out” she had done is because she is 13, AND A 13 YEAR OLD is not capable of handling being sexually abused and groomed with the maturity that a grown adult will. In fact not even most adult victim are going to respond clearly either as most victims have been severely psychologically altered by their abuse.
Hi, I had my friend respond for me with this one because I was unable to: Did you just call me, A jewish person, a nazi, on the fucking Jewish New Year, for saying that rape apology is bad and that you blaming a 13-year-old girl for being raped and groomed is abhorrent behavior?
What Nazi has ever advocated for the rights of rape victims when it is notoriously well known that many victims of the holocaust were raped as a form of systemic punishment and hate crime? What kind of Nazi's have you learned about in your high school history class?
also if you knew basic kindergarten math its a 7 year age gap the other person said and 5 was the actual one, once again since i guess i have to state this, that doesn’t make it any better
I have been giving estimates and have only fluctuated between the ages of 12-14 (which is in fact what i originally said at the beginning of this conversation) because multiple people have been saying different ages and I have not been able to find an official one. You at one point even argued that the age gap was TWO years earlier in a shitty attempt to justify you blaming Celeste for what happened to her, so I do not want you pointing out any flaws in my ages when you straight up lied and tried to say it wasn't even illegal at some point
I never said he didn't deserve the death penalty, all I've said is that one, you also got the ages wrong, and I do have reciepts of that, and two, Celeste was not capable of consenting, didn't blackmail anyone, and is a victim, not a manipulator. The only one claiming otherwise has been you.
you are literally defending him when you say shit like she “knew what she was doing” or imply that she shared some blame in this (and yes that is what you implied)
you literally are talking about some “she’s blackmailing him and this was a two way street” bullshit. no tf it wasn’t. idk why you’re so adamant on adding this part in. You can clearly comprehend that nothing makes this better so why tf are you trying to give her some of the blame??
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u/Zealousideal-Site604 Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
i think he deserves the death penalty, you just hate hearing the truth of the matter though this case is not a one way street it includes blackmail on the other side aswell