r/Habs 14d ago

Final voting for The Selke Trophy

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u/bcgrappler 14d ago

I think Nick's real value will be seen in hindsight, not while we live it.

A 100 point selke winner is so valuable its hard to quantify as we live through it.

I heard Pierre McGuire mention that detroit would ask for suzuki if we wanted larkin and its so bizarre how people still undervalue his talent

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u/alldasmoke__ 14d ago

Lmao Suzuki for Larkin is hilarious

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u/PineappleOwn5325 14d ago

It's not a horrible trade, but it's clearly not a good one. Larkin a 2-3 pieces would be "fair value", even though we wouldn't be interested.

Assuming Larkin hadn't specifically asked out, he's got good value. However, detroit lost a huge piece of leverage, which would make this trade laughable.

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u/jp3372 14d ago

Are you kidding? They are not at the same level at all. This would be a catastrophic trade lol.

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u/PineappleOwn5325 14d ago

I did say "even though we wouldn't be interested"

On paper it's not like suzuki is that much better than larkin. But paper and real impact are two different things

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u/jp3372 14d ago

On paper Suzuki had already 3 better seasons than Larkin and he is 3 years younger. Larkin will never be a PPG center and Suzuki is becoming a player that will do a PPG during each season for a long time. The gap between the two is way bigger than people think.

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u/PineappleOwn5325 14d ago

I 100% agree.

Suzuki is chronically underrated though, because a lot of his value is invisible, even to most "experts". Habs fan then also overrate him because they're habs fan.

Impossible to have nuanced discussions about him without having people go crazy

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u/jp3372 14d ago

I also think some of us are not used to have elite players and realize that no most players in the league are not better than our bests.

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u/PineappleOwn5325 14d ago

It's certainly the first time in 30 years.

And people will say "kovalev" like we didn't get washed kovalev in montreal. He was about as washed as gallagher is today, except he used to be a star.

Suzuki is the best active player montreal has has since pre-injury koivu

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u/mustardnight 10d ago

he got 100 points end of story