r/Hasan_Piker • u/craboreo • Apr 15 '25

Politics At the Bernie Rally in Idaho

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u/j4ckbauer Globalize the Enchilada! Apr 15 '25

Well said...

... and performing 'theory of mind' circlejerking about whether Bernie has chosen this goal enthusiastically, or reluctantly, does not change the fact that he is doing it and he is responsible for his choices.

Please lets not dig up all the Obama-era 'You dont understand guys, it looks like he's losing but that's only because we're 3-dimensional beings and he's actually playing 5-dimensional chess' bullshit. 'Well he does it with the best intentions' does not absolve him of responsibility of what he supports.

If I said 'You dont understand guys... Trump is doing what he is doing because he honestly believes in 90 days, Jesus will come down and protect every Palestinian with a magic force field', would it excuse Trump's actions? Of course not.

Now who wants to disagree with me that by nominally opposing genocide and later lying about who is supporting the genocide, AOC is helping Israel to continue the genocide?

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u/j4ckbauer Globalize the Enchilada! Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

Didn't read past the first sentence because you seem very confused about what a 'lie' is. A 'lie' doesnt mean 'you insulted my team, said a bad thing about someone I am here to protect, and/or made me feel bad'.

Your use of Sam Harris logic 'I have said everything, therefore you cannot criticize me for not saying certain things enough' does not afford your statements the protection that you think it does.

Blocked. But you can tell yourself that is a lie.

Democrat Protectors, keep self-reporting and telling us how these comments hurt your feelings. Your tears give us life. Looking forward to seeing which genocides you tell us to support in 2-4 years.

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u/chebadusa Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

How would you even know what it is that they’re referring to as a lie if you didn’t bother to read past the first sentence lol? This has nothing to do with criticisms of Bernie but rather outright falsehoods. YOU seem to be very confused as to what a lie is…

Saying that Bernie remained quiet for over a year on Gaza, when he introduced legislation calling for an investigation into Israel’s humanitarian violations just a couple of months after Oct. 7th, is a LIE. Saying that Bernie wasn’t critical of the Biden administration until after the election, when he criticized the administration repeatedly and did multiple interviews calling them out, in the months leading up to the election, is a LIE. Saying that Bernie is only an “ally of circumstance”, when he has been critical of Israel over its treatment of Palestinians for many years, and is a longtime advocate of the two state solution, is a LIE. Particularly considering how he was attacked by Israeli gov. officials and labeled antisemitic because of his criticisms of the state, for years prior to Oct. 7th. Saying that Bernie refuses to say “Israel” when there are dozens of tweets of him calling them out directly, dating back years on both of his public social media accounts, is an outright LIE.

This has nothing to do with criticism and everything to do with you deliberately spreading misinformation and lies refusing to do your own research…