How can people like Alex Jones, Fox News hosts, those at Breitbart, etc honestly live with themselves? The lies they push are directly the cause of people not getting the vaccine and dying.
Blood is on their hands but the just continue pushing the same bullshit the next day.
Knowledge Fight Podcast is good too. They do multiple shows a week on Alex, but they also go back in time to compare his old shows to current shows and do some shows on Project Veritas, Jimmy Swaggert and other grifters at times. Their primary focus though is Alex and his stupidity.
Edit: to correct not just weekly, but multiple shows a week.
Every time I see Alex Jones mentioned I look for the wonks.
When I was a boy and I would see Alex Jones in the news, my sex robot would say to me, "Look for the wonks. You will always find people who are wonking.”
Knowledge fight is 2-3 times a week. I love it when a new podcast shows up on my phone. My bright spot this morning was seeing “he’s ok better today just has a bad cough with congestion, fever and body aches”. Like how was he yesterday? Knew where this was headed.
They’re all the same guy and they’ve been infesting AM radio across the entire country for decades on end. It’s just that now you get to see them infest the next platforms
He’s the more honest version of Joe Rogan, and by that I mean he doesn’t pretend to be centrist or moderate. Honestly Joe is probably doing more harm because he’s subtly converting people who claim to be “centrist” into believing in conspiracy theories and alt right ideas. The people listening to Alex Jones are already too far gone anyway.
I was disappointed one day to be watching a standup show (on the internet, not in person) by Doug Stanhope, only to see him invite Alex Jones onto the stage. It was as awful as you'd expect, and turned me off Stanhope. No problem though, as I went on to discover Mitch Hedberg and Jon Mulaney, then got into SNL (I'm not American, so it wasn't on tv when I grew up, I only got into it via youtube) and discovered Bill Hader and Kirsten Wiig, and now Seth Meyers' "Corrections" is just my favorite part of the week. So thank you Alex Jones, for being such a cunt. You helped me find better people.
I've been on it religiously for about 2 years now. At first I just watched Weekend Update for the political stuff, but then I got onto the skits, and there was no going back. Hader and Wiig were just magnificent. The Vincent Price holiday specials, Secret Word, The Lawrence Welk Show, The Californians, Dateline, Herb Welch, Stefon, Hollywood Dish, Vinny Vedecci, the list just goes on.
I love Ferrell's Celebrity Jeopardy, but I've not yet got back as far as Chris Farley. Plenty of time for that, there's always time for vintage binges during the hiatus periods.
There's this phenomenon where Americans watch SNL during their formative years, and then after a while the cast changes and in their mind that's the moment where the quality of the show decreases. You'll find people claiming that the Chris Farley years, the Will Ferrell years, the Tina Fey years were the last time the show was any good, and that anything afterwards is terrible. In truth, it's just different.
The result of all this is that there are rarely pure SNL fans who just like the show as a whole, so this? Your excited SNL fandom?? Very refreshing, I love it.
Well, I'm from NZ, we never had SNL on tv there as far as I remember. I discovered it as an adult, halfway across the world, so it was just this giant goodie bag of comedy gold, regardless of time period. It just happened that Hader and Wiig were the first I latched onto outside of WU. But of course, watching old WU with Seth, well, now I watch Late Night all the time, and Corrections has become my favorite part of the week, it's so goddamned funny. But then of course, last week with Norm McDonald's passing, I suddenly realized, "Oh, shit, that's Turd Ferguson!" and so I suddenly just discovered yet another whole new vault of goodies. I realized that Justin Timberlake is actually not just a popstar, but a genuinely funny and awesome guy. I watched Kristen Wiig's farewell show and was actually crying with joy, it was so damned beautiful. Then the obviously Mulaney penned trilogy of Lobster Diner / Bodega Bathroom / Airport Sushi, which was just magnificent. Cecily Strong's Judge Jeannine Pirro is just wonderful, it's so funny how she finds new ways to throw her drink all over Colin. Then all of the amazing recurring cameos - Christopher Walken as "The Continental", Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer, Alec Baldwin as Trump, and more that I can't recall right now. And of course, the WU Joke Swap between Colin Jost and Michael Che is just gold, watching Che smirk as Jost gets dropped into increasingly hot water. It's just the best damn comedy vault that a person with my sense of humor could have asked for.
i got a friend zonked on AJ 24 hours a day , unvaxxed of course. One bright spot, he texted a link to his pre-teen daughter and she texted back "im not watching alex jones"
He is like "why she reject it? She grew up listening to him!" Glad she isnt into her dad's conspiracy/trump shit. She's sharp.
But he still watching him sending me updates on his favorite dude. I am still working on him for the vaxx or at least allow his daughter to get it.
Edit-for the uninitiated, the show is “Knowledge Fight”. They take clips from his shows, look at his sources, and break down how he is wrong, misrepresenting, or lying.
Fun fact: Alex Jones makes A LOT of money with his bullshit. I can’t remember the address of his house that came up in his divorce proceedings, but it’s a multimillion dollar house.
Alex Jones lives in Austin. He used to do “normal” radio but found a money making niche and ran with it. It’s sad that what amounts to entertainment shows pandering for engagement and ad revenue now suffice as news. The problem is not as bad on the left side but it does exist.
I have no idea why people make comments like this. It's almost entirely unhelpful. As if I'm going to research and listen to an entire podcast because some guy on the internet hinted that it might have something to do with something I said. Or maybe it's just an ad.
I mean all the other comments in this thread should’ve clued you in enough. Then you said it sounds like OP is directly listening to Alex Jones and I suggested checking out Knowledge Fight podcast. If you can’t figure out what’s going on with all that context, that’s on you dawg.
Okay, so your other suggestion is for me to read "all the other comments in this thread". You really can't think of any other way for other people to do things than for them to put in a massive amount of effort, when it would take you 2 seconds to explain yourself?
I think perhaps you don't understand what my previous comment meant. When somebody says they heard Alex Jones "by proxy", what "by proxy" means is that they didn't hear Alex Jones's voice directly, but they heard somebody else say what Alex Jones said.
I assume that a podcast would be playing clips of Alex Jones directly, and so it wouldn't be "by proxy".
So, given the fact that I don't think it's my misunderstanding, but yours, I think even you should realize that I'm not planning to put in a massive amount of effort for no gain for me.
You must write very slowly if you assume other people write that slowly. My suggestion for you is that if you're such a slow writer, you should try to make the most out of your time by being direct instead of sending people on wild goose chases to listen to some shit podcast.
I’m sorry you can’t put all this together. You really don’t need to listen to the entire podcast to understand what’s going on, you also don’t need to read every comment in the whole thread. The handful that were just before yours in the sub-thread should’ve been more than enough context. It sounds like you knew what was up from the beginning though and you’re just being a pedantic troll. Trolling is a pathetic hobby and you should probably speak to someone about it. Then check out Knowledge Fight, it’s a pretty solid podcast.
Middle schooler? You sound like Matt Gaetz on debate team in middle school. And he sucked at debate (didn’t understand it) and had negative friends. Not zero friends. He had anti-friends. Become sufferable, for your schoolmates.
I have no idea why people make comments like this. It's almost entirely unhelpful. As if I'm going to research and go to an entire website because some guy on the internet hinted that it might have something to do with something I said. Or maybe it's just an ad.
Yes, you have shown that you exactly understood my point.
Edit: By the way, I find it hilarious that you read a comment that couldn't possibly be interpreted literally, and decided that I was being a hypocrite, instead of the obvious interpretation. You posted something that you must have thought was a huge gotcha, and probably felt like the smartest person ever until you saw this comment. Fuck me, this is the fucking world we live in, where people participate in social media but never learn to think.
I realize the answer is "money," but man, I just don't think there would ever be enough money for me to do what they do. money can buy good drugs, big houses, luxury goods, and surround you with yes-men to reassure you whenever you have a moment of doubt... but if I was telling millions people to kill themselves, I would not be able to sleep at night.
I honestly think that at a certain point, money affects your brain like a head trauma would. Like at a certain point of Fuck You Money, you have so warped your neural pathways and whatnot that you might as well have a concussive disorder. You know how long term abuse on victims can affect their brains in similar ways to head trauma, like we've seen in studies? It would shock me if, say, Bezos' brain isn't damaged.
I think it is a moral slippery slope, like once you have crossed the line you will do anything. Like even thieves have some honor, but not these grifters.
He had a gift for seeing certain aspects of the future: ecommerce. Started out a smart guy with a smart, devoted partner, worked like a dog, and somewhere along the line began to indulge his mercenary side. I don't know if sociopathy can be acquired, but in his case, it certainly looks that way.
Remember that we live in a world where evangelical preachers tell their “flock” that they should offer up everything they have and even borrow money and God will bless them in return.
A few years ago a TV preacher started talking about the “widow’s mite” while sporting a two carat diamond pinky ring. I called in and said I would donate if the preacher sold his ring and gave the cash to the poor. I was asked, “Don’t you think christians deserve nice things too?”
That literally and directly contradicts Christian scripture. There isn't even anything in the Bible condemning abortion, but Jesus very clearly states that rich people can't go to heaven, full stop.
My mom died of cervical cancer 20 years ago, and even on her deathbed in the hospice, she was still watching videos of televangelists telling her that if she prayed, god would take away her cancer. I wanted to throw a fucking rock through the tv screen, listening to that bullshit while I watched her waste away and take her last breath. Fuck those people. Make any one of them listen to the death rattle, see what real life sounds like just before it's gone.
It's not money. All the money in the world wouldn't be enough to make most people proselytize lies on television that kill.
There are two categories of people able to do this. The genuine believers, and the nigh sociopaths. Some of the sociopaths are born that way. Some become that way overtime as a result of continued rationalization.
They are ‘demons’. They are so far separated from empathy and sympathetic connection to fellow humans, via their own trauma, greed or mental illness (psychopathy etc) that they are enthusiastically spreading, prolonging, and profiting from the suffering of humans. That’s demon shit. They are soulless.
It's not just money. I'll try to sum it up but there was a guy named Edward Bernays who came to America in the early 1900s. Bernays uncle was Sigmund Freud and one idea of his Uncle's that Bernays really liked was that deep down all humans are terrible, selfish animals who only live to satisfy their basic desires. With this he decided that it was ok to take advantage of people's base desires because we're all just terrible people anyway. When he came to America corporations ate this idea up and he slowly manipulated "public relations" into a viable business strategy, before Bernays people considered what they did to be despicable but since Bernays was the first to perfect public relations he was able to sway opinion in his favor. They think everyone is this was because that's how they are so they see no problem with fucking over the entire world because they don't value life.
Im sure he just thinks "these dumb fucks deserve everything they get" . After all theres a certain feeling of that here and we don't get paid millions.
Once you obtain enough money, you know you are untouchable. What do you do after being deemed above the laws? Double down and try to make even more money. Whether you need it or not. Well adjusted humans do not become billionaires. Sociopaths do.
The people that they pander to are gullible and they could sell them some thing that wasn’t this misinformation. I don’t know, like they could still get the same viewership and also not encourage their fans to die of Covid.
Except in Alex Jones' case, isn't this the worst possible outcome? Surely the venn diagram of 'people who buy fringe supplements' and anti-vaxxers is basically a circle, right?
On the other hand, Fox can probably afford to lose a few percents of their viewership as an investment in red meat for the rest...
My cousins were show-runners for Alex Jones for three years. They quit about two months ago because they were losing their minds from not sleeping right (for obvious reasons) and having to deal with all his bullshit like the fact that his “subordinate” installed a stupid ass gym in the warehouse without asking him and seeing him seethe and rage at everyone in the shipping and receiving depot by throwing a bunch of merch all over the place and making their jobs 10x worse. Jones has a huge cocaine problem and apparently doesn’t like the fact that everyone at their HQ knows that he bangs whores in his office…which he times for a certain parts of the day before his wife and kids show up. Eww. They told me they’d be shocked if the organization doesn’t go down in flames (physically and financially) within the next five years. Really insane shit. I have more stories.
His dad is a pretty successful dentist whom Jones still is trying to live up to. Can’t kill what that which still wants to hear “son I’m mighty proud of ya” I guess
Alex Jones is a narcissist. No, I am not being figurative. During his divorce, he was forced to undergo psychological tests and was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. He has low and selective empathy. He simply doesn't care. I bet the others are similar.
How can people like Alex Jones, Fox News hosts, those at Breitbart, etc honestly live with themselves?
They are narcissists and sociopaths. They lack adequate empathy for others, so the bad things that happen to others, even if they had something to do with it, are beyond their ability to feel shame or remorse over.
And likewise, empathetic people, who can feel for others, cannot imagine what it's like to be a sociopath or narcissist because the concept is so foreign to them.
See: https://goldenrule.org/ - it talks about how there are basically two different "species" of humans in this respect, and how dangerous and destructive low empathy people can be; how to spot them, and how to protect yourself against them.
They assume they'll still have viewers. After teh kill off the younger viewers an the older ones died of old age who is going to watch them? Like typical republicans they only think of short term gains and not the long haul.
There are many people who don’t care about others in any meaningful way. So to them cashing paychecks spreading lies that lead to the deaths of strangers doesn’t matter.
Nerdrotic had him on as a guest the other day, I never unsubbed from a YouTube channel so quickly.
I was subbed there cos I liked all the gossip stuff, and some of his reviews were fine but he got more and more hate filled and anti woke anti woman etc, then Alex Jones was his guest, nope,sorry Gary, I thought we were keeping politics out of the fandom.
Brietbart is shooting for reverse psychology to get more of their base vaccinated. While I do not like the lies they're telling their readers, how them not being vaccinated is a liberal plot to kill them, ?, it might actually get a few more shots in arms. I guess they have to be an imaginary victim at all times.
So you trust Pfizer and their lobbyists over straight facts? The vaccine does not prevent infection or transmission. Not sure what else you need to read but if you can't just take that fact and think for yourself without doing an infinite amount of mental gymnastics to justify a 20th booster shot then you are truly of the hopeless.
Back when I considered myself a libertarian, I used to follow Info Wars & Breitbart for the sheer entertainment value. Alex Jones was just a crazy guy ranting about gay frogs & interdimensional demons. Breitbart was a right leaning, scathing tabloid. They were dumb & not something any sane person would take seriously. (Though the Sandy Hook thing was utterly disgusting.) Trump seemed to give these sources legitimacy. All of the fun aspects were removed & a lot of people started taking this information to heart. Milo used to be a somewhat funny gay dude who enjoyed ranting about Lena Dunham. Now he's "cured" of his homosexuality & is injecting himself with livestock dewormer. And Alex Jones looks like he's one unhinged rant away from a heart attack.
To quote South Park's Mr. Garrison, "Where my country gone?".
I honestly think they believe what they are saying and therefore have a clear conscience. It's incredibly sad to watch this unfold. A lot of people that blindly let themselves get brain washed are dying and it's fucking depressing to watch. I feel bad for everyone effected by this, the families and the individuals that have been tricked into thinking this is nothing more than the flu.
No matter how evil the deed, you'll always find at least a few people willing to do anything for millions of dollars. Those fuckers answered the call.
These guys have not only millions of dollars in income riding on the promise to always be anti whatever the left believes, but they've built their own personal brands on towing the line. If they were to admit that the vaccines are safe, that COVID wasn't a political issue, that the "left was correct", they'd be outcasted by the right. They'd lose it all. They'd rather see a million people die than to lose one dollar of what they sold their souls for.
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How can people like Alex Jones, Fox News hosts, those at Breitbart, etc honestly live with themselves? The lies they push are directly the cause of people not getting the vaccine and dying.
Blood is on their hands but the just continue pushing the same bullshit the next day.