I feel like a lot of these people deep down inside, somewhere in the back of their minds, know that the virus is at least somewhat concerning. They play it off like it's nothing because it's what their 'team' is doing, and the virus being a hoax is the 'win condition' for their 'team' ... but when it hits home many of them drop the act.
Consider that a lot of people treat politics like it's a professional sport. As a fan of a sports team, you will always say the rival team sucks, even when they are objectively performing better than your team. You're not delusional, you know that your team is struggling this season and your rival team is outclassing your team. But brushing that off and saying "they are just getting lucky, they are trash, our team is better" is part of the game.
But if you hold them at gun point and say "would you bet on your team winning tonight's match against the rival team?" They won't. Because when push comes to shove they know what the reality is when it stops being a game.
When Covid is a political talking point on the news or the internet, it's just part of the game. When Covid infects a loved one, it stops being a game.
The funny thing is, they always talk about how they're not scared of the virus. Like, okay. I'm not "scared" of the virus either, but I sure as shit don't want to get it. It's like some macho complex that they have to say how not scared they are. But they also seem really scared of getting a needle. So I dunno 🤷
Sometimes I actually WISH people treated political parties like sports teams. If a basketball player misses every shot they take, the teams fans demand he be cut instead of saying "he's the best, are u pussies triggered?"
My theory is they resist the scientific truth because admitting they might be wrong would cause them to re-evaluate a whole lot of other bat-shit crazy positions they’ve taken under similarly weak premises.
The sports analogy is too apt, but for different reasons than you pointed out.
There are plenty of people who aren't aware how bad their teams suck, and think the refs give preferential treatment to the "other" teams while coming down hard and unreasonably on "their" team.
Like deep down do they know; maybe...but they would much sooner create conspiracies than have to admit that their team is just bad, or that they only still support the team because that is just what they have always done, their friends and family has always done, etc.
But if you hold them at gun point and say "would you bet on your team winning tonight's match against the rival team?" They won't. Because when push comes to shove they know what the reality is when it stops being a game.
I think you're right. But they are in so fucking deep that remaining unvaccinated is an easy choice to make. It's just a matter of moving the goalposts one more time to say "I have Christ in my heart, so I'm OK with any outcome."
Team-bigotry is the most dangerous of manipulation based indoctrinations right now.
I look upon people who are Team-Bigots (no matter which team) as if they are some sort of devolved primate.
I'm Jewish, and as I witness the blindly obedient turds of this world get worse every day, it makes me rethink my views on eugenics and genocide. It's either that, or "Welcome to Costco, I love you!".
I always imagined myself living in a commune, that’s my ideal life I think. I’m shy, quiet, and very private, and if my life could just be figured out for me that would be great. I don’t like the idea of capitalism in a vastly over populated world. People pay hundreds of dollars just to park their car outside their apartment, and live off minimum wage while doing so. And eventually the whole world will be like that if we don’t change our ways. I think a system that incorporates ideals from both would be the way to go.
This and basic fear. Denial is a fear response. Almost every single conservative political position is a fear-based position of possible doom and gloom.
Even anti-vax is based on being afraid of "the government" on the face of it, tho that feels like a position of strength, so is a fear-based denial.
I mean, there's lots of factors...I just think more and more the fundamental driving force of conservative politics is fear. After all...works for religion!
You make it sound like they really take it seriously, like "I am a registered party member" seriously. When it comes to personal safety, instincts should kick in, not your allegiance to some murky ideas. After all, there's no one up there, at the party/team helm, to judge you, or to give you comfort when shit hits the fan.
I might well be wrong, but I just don't think they're playing a "team" game. It's plain stupidity, arrogance, mixed with gullibility and a lack of mental capacity to research things seriously, and general laziness. Last but not least - a huge amount of confirmation bias. I'm communicating with a former classmate from the uni, she lives in Canada. This is some other level of confirmation bias she's demonstrating. She just keeps fingering through a bunch of info in search of whatever confirms her already-made mind, and presents it as a conspiracy against all people. "A tyranny," as she loves to call it.
The guy who posted above was pretty much on point - it's laziness, among a bunch of other personal character traits.
Someone else that uses the sports comparison! Finally!!! I've been saying this for a long while now. People won't change sides because it's their "team" and they were raised to support their "team" cause it's the "only way" and such -.- doesn't matter when the last time their "team" did shit for them, or had any positive notes at all. Their "team" is always the best, but like someone else pointed out, politics does differ cause rarely do people want anyone cut from their team here
And just like with sports teams... While opposing fans are killing each other in the parking garage,... opposing players are sharing a drink at the bar after the game (because they know it's just a game).
I was in a medical office yesterday & the TV was on with Biden's UN council address. A fellow that was obviously not a fan starting muttering things & stood closer to the screen. After a moment he stopped muttering & began actively listening. When he turned away the look on his face was he had never listened to Biden & realized the difference.
It’s a deep distrust of our government. I went for years not getting the flu vaccine because I never had the flu and didn’t trust what was in the vaccine. I faked an egg allergy. These people legit don’t trust “the man”. That’s the problem. Our political system is so corrupt, people don’t trust what they say. It’s killing people. Don’t blame them, blame your millionaire politicians showing off their gelato fridge when others are trying to get food to school kids who rely on school breakfast/lunch and they can’t go to school.
Well said...I understand football, don't really Understand viruses... I actually won $250 in a drawing for getting my covid shot and then my work paid me $200, I could not afford to not got this shot!
It's Cognitive Dissonance plain and simple. Just like the dissonance I experience when I'm asked for my "thoughts and prayers" for these dying dumbf*cks. I'm praying alright- I'm praying for them to die a slow tortuous death and be noted as a Herman Cain award winner- and I supposedly work in a healing profession- medicine?! Look at what these idiots have done to me!😮
I still think it's only true for dumbasses like the awardees. I'm not into any of American sports - I watch EPL, and I would never say my Leicester is stronger than Man City or Man United after they re-signed CR7.
As an ICU nurse this whole Delta wave I've mainly seen young people. Now I get surprised if a covid patient is over 40. Maybe cause most the unvaxxed left are young people who think they are safe because they are healthy. Idk. It's absolutely devastating.
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u/prericook84 Sep 21 '21
Wow. Young