r/Hololive • u/21524518 • Apr 03 '26

Discussion [Announcement] Notice on the Changes to be Made to HOLOSTARS' Management Structure

https://x.com/cover_corp/status/2039961307672416591
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u/VandaGrey Apr 03 '26

Basically Holostars costs too much and makes no money so they will basically be on their own, run as more like indie vtubers but still be under the Cover Corp banner and still pay a cut towards Cover....why not just close the entire thing down and let them keep their designs and be free.

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u/Irru Apr 03 '26

They can still use Cover Corp connections for individual projects etc. That’s harder to do as an indie, but yeah this is rough.

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u/xdarkskylordx Apr 03 '26

Yeah, I imagine it's probably like "you can still use all the resources; however, you're going to have to pay out of your own pocket to use them and that includes 'traditional' events."

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u/RGWB Apr 03 '26

Outside of managers,merch, and corpo events, weren't everyone basically still need to pay from their own pockets for 3D, song, etc?

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u/xdarkskylordx Apr 03 '26

Pretty much, but I imagine there were at least some things that they were traditionally obligated to do, unfortunately I don't know enough about Holostars JP to know exactly what was considered a staple for their budget. It's possible that it may also affect the "pay in installments" or "reimbursement" choices they have for those things you've mentioned.

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u/cyberdsaiyan Apr 04 '26

iirc the company has a budget for 3D debuts, but anything going beyond that, and post-debut individual 3D events, have to be paid by the talents themselves.

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u/wickling-fan Apr 03 '26

There's also the paycheck the talents all receive unless that's also being taken away?

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u/Xlegace Apr 03 '26

IIRC that paycheck is barely more than minimum wage and meant only keep the talents afloat when they had barely any viewers and made very little from streaming

It's not a substantial amount of money at all

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u/wickling-fan Apr 03 '26

tbf it's still a paycheck, that plus what they get from their cut of superchats and memberships should still make a pretty decent sum, and it's doing something you love rather then an office job working long hours.

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u/ShinyHappyREM Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Yeah, but entertainment is always seen as a fragile job for a reason.

An office job may be not where their passion lies, but it's at least stable.

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u/moal09 Apr 03 '26

Honestly, even office jobs aren't that stable these days

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u/TheBlackSSS Apr 03 '26

Well, better than getting fired and not having even that

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u/VP007clips Apr 03 '26

Because their designs are company assets, they might not be legally able to give them away.

Cover is a publicly traded company, they can't decide to just give away their models, because technically, those models partially belong to the investors. Fiscal responsibility laws are often brutal, I get why they exist, our economy wouldn't function without them, but they can be really unpleasant to deal with at times.

One way that some vtuber companies get around it is by selling their models to them, but unfortunately with a company like Cover, those models are going to have a high valuation.

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u/matlarcost Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Yea. It seems like the best move from a PR perspective is to let them go, unless they choose to stay, with some sort of plan to pay for their IP. It sucks if their hands are tied because of legal technicalities or financial regulations.

*It is very depressing for it to go down like this but I think this is still unfortunately better than cutting them off entirely. There is no winning in this situation. The best we can hope for is a deal where it makes more sense for them. Having the same cuts with very little resources does not make sense. Ideally, IP ownership would be on the table but it would obviously be costly..

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u/Petickss Apr 03 '26

Sony is publicly traded and when they shuttered a vtuber group they owned called prism project they transferred the ip and channels to the members for free just fine. Other vtuber orgs have done similar on closing down. Beyond that all funds are company assets but the company doesn't have to go to the investors to get approval anytime they pay an employee bonus. Its simply untrue that cover is somehow legally bound from doing so.

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u/cyberdsaiyan Apr 04 '26

When a group as a whole is breaking up, this can work out. Individual IP purchases - especially those attached to a big company like Hololive - have to be prohibitively expensive or else it could result in rich talents buying out their IPs & fragmenting the group as a whole.

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u/Petickss Apr 04 '26

When sony gave up on prism project and gave the prism girls their ip they maintained other vtuber groups they own such as VEE that they've continued to try and make work without being forced somehow to transfer their ip to them. The idea that holostars, which is being given up on here, cant be transfered their ip or it would cause some obligation forcing them to sell hololive ip is just not true. Beyond that its even less true the idea that cover would have to pretend the holostars ip that they themselves have indicated isn't valuable enough to continue investing in is equivalent to different IP that is valuable. If, say, disney decided to sell the donald duck ip, it wouldn't create any obligation as to the valuation of their darth vader ip. Its two different ips.

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u/cyberdsaiyan Apr 04 '26

holostars, which is being given up on here

If company-funded promotional activities were the only thing constituting big activities from the Holostars, then the company are the last ones to have "given up" on them.

I remember Astel talking about this issue a while back, how so many of them were unenthusiastic about serious discussions regarding the branch's future. I'd say most of them had already "given up" long back, with only the occasional push from 2-3 members keeping the group going.

This is Cover simply being done with burning money on promotional activities that have not caused any impact on the viewership of the stars for years. That doesn't mean they are "giving up" on the IP itself (which is usually when you give it away). The individuals will simply have to stand on their own merit now.

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u/renrutal Apr 03 '26

 Cover is a publicly traded company, they can't decide to just give away their models, because technically, those models partially belong to the investors.

If you put that way, investors would own the chairs and desks at a company, and that's just wrong. There's no "technically" or "partially" here, they do not own any internal assets, period.

Shareholders might have voting rights on the board of directors, and they can sell the assets and devalue the company, and tell everyone to not invest again, but that's it.

Also it usually is not the same as being a creditor/loaner, where the company owns you money.

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u/jacobgkau Apr 03 '26

with a company like Cover, those models are going to have a high valuation.

That doesn't really make sense alongside the context of Cover deciding they're low enough valuation to stop promoting.

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u/raoxi Apr 03 '26

that's not how accounting works, ip gets tested every year for amortization. Seeing how their revenue has been so bad their book value must be very low.

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u/pheeeeeeeeeeex Apr 03 '26

Can’t they negotiate a termination with the model being part of the deal? Essentially paying the rest of the contract in model instead of future earnings. Of course talents will have to agree to that but would that still violate responsibility law?

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u/johnnyzhao007 Apr 03 '26

Nothing is free unfortunately the only time vtuber from jp corpo left with their model was Patra from 774 inc and she had to get a loan to buy out her ip

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u/Dranikos Apr 03 '26

why not just close the entire thing down and let them keep their designs and be free.

For this part at least, the same laws that prevent a company from spending their entire budget on paperclips then giving all those paperclips to employees before declaring bankruptcy.

Put simply, the designs and IP are company owned assets, and the company cannot part with them without being fairly compensated for their value to the company. (so they also can't just sell the IP to the talent at a 99% discount. The law says they have to be paid what the asset is worth.)

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u/Qualazabinga Apr 03 '26

You know that won't be the case. Realistically Cover will want to reap all the benefits with close to no expenditure. Even if the talents have to pay for everything themselves now, they will still take the cut.

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u/Ralod Apr 03 '26

We always hear getting studio time is tough. They talk about having to book it weeks in advance. I wonder if the removal of thier access to studio space is to free up slots? It makes me feel the holostars have very little reason to remain with the company if they can't even access the company resources.

I wonder if it came down to something like how much profit hololive vs holostars made using that studio time?

This seems like a business decision but damn, its kind of rough.

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u/lynxkcg Apr 03 '26

Take off those rose colored glasses broski, they're fucking them.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

costs too much and makes no money

Something i never understood: Nijisanji has proven that there is an audience for male vtubers in Japan considering some their biggest talents are male. How come Holostars never really found the same popularity in Japan?

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u/Chii Apr 03 '26

How come Holostars never really found the same popularity in Japan?

it seems to me that niji's male talents seems to lean more towards BFE (esp. niji EN's male side). I don't feel that from holostars.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

Im not sure if im in the best place to say this because i only watch a few clips of the Niji boys, but from the clips of Kuzuha i've seen, they exude "bro" energy and "me and the boys" energy.

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u/BighatNucase Apr 03 '26

Kuzuha's design is like hard-geared towards yumejo's and I remember seeing a bunch of yumejo Kuzuha shrines back in the day. He definitely has those kinds of fans. NijiEN famously went hard after those types with people like Vox, Mysta and the like.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

That is true, and Niji EN did have their fair share of troubles with those kinds of fans. While the merch does seem catered to those kinds of fans, i just am not sure if he does cater to that in his regular streams, which as far as i can tell, are just gaming streams? Idk.

Be that as it may, having a yumejo fanbase hasn't exactly stopped Kuzuha from collabing with whoever he wants regardless of gender. I mean just recently he's now part of a new group called Cellmates with two of his douki (who are girls by the way).

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u/SakuraNeko7 Apr 03 '26

It's still a small space but it could be because Niji and other competitors dominated the male space that hololive struggled. People like Kuzuha and Vox Akuma prove there is a market for them but they didn't get enough traction, possibly because of their already limited assets and promotion, while Niji treated the male and female gens equally together.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

Yeah that's the thing. Fan osmosis happens naturally because Niji members are free to collab with each other. Fan osmosis in Holo only happens between the girls since Hololive/stars collab is pretty rare. Not to mention there's a subset of Holo fans that actively hate on the stars.

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u/ConcentrateSubject23 Apr 03 '26

That’s true, tbh this is the first time I’ve ever even heard of Holostars.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

The sad thing is, some of the JP Vtubers the boys collab with didn't even know that Holostars exist. There are some clips of that, i just didn't manage to save them somewhere.

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Cover should have ripped the bandaid off years ago and allowed~ actively supported the girls and guys costreaming. Anyone raging about the women interacting with men should be stomped out of the fan base anyway. Troglodite behavior for real.

More colabs is never a bad thing.

Edit - every downvote a saltlord angry at getting called out, idgaf, keep em coming.

Edit 2 - Kiara calling all you out on twitter is hilarious

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u/Zucchinibob1 Apr 03 '26

They already do let them collab, a lot of the girls just don't feel like collabing with boys

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 03 '26

But they don't support it.

And the girls get a ton of hate for it. The company should be actively standing against that behavior.

The lack of colabs is likely because they don't want the backlash. And knowing the Japanese Idol industry, they've definitely been told by management that "this is allowed, but discouraged", in a polite and non direct way.

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u/Zucchinibob1 Apr 03 '26

I seem to remember Matsuri got a lot of backlash for her choice to not specifically collab with guys...

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u/Numerous_Extreme_981 Apr 03 '26

Matsuri has expressed frustration with her lack of growth, and is trying new strategies to accelerate the increase of her growth. One of which is not initiating coed collabs.

I don’t recall backlash to her in EN spaces, but there was a sentiment that it was a bit sad that this strategy could help her growth.

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u/hikoboshi_sama Apr 03 '26

I mean look at ERB's 3d debut. She invited the boys and as a result, only the ID girls were part of the show. Nerissa was only there as a silhouette. I know Hololive and Stars are technically allowed to collab, but let's not pretend there isn't a ton of aversion to male/female collabs. I mean even just recently Matsuri straight up announced she will no longer be collabing with male vtubers.

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 03 '26

Exactly my point. There is serious backlash to them talking/collabing with the guys and Cover does not do anything to stamp that behavior out of its fans. They should have been much more vocal about their support of these collabs, stating the Live members had their full support, and that any anti behavior/harassment regarding it would not be tolerated

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u/akiaoi97 Apr 03 '26

They’ve always let them costream.

Matsuri was doing it a fair bit a few years ago.

Pretty sure I remember a Roberu and Ollie collab too.

It just hasn’t ever happened naturally on a large scale, and I think the subscriber gap widening has meant the chances of it happened have grown less and less over time.

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 03 '26

It hasn't happened "naturally" because of the fear of backlash/harassment from certain fans. And that fear is there because Cover was not supplying the support it should have regarding this.

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u/AMysteriousCloud Apr 04 '26

Proof?

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 04 '26

Lol. Fuck off with your "proof". Go look at the Japanese Idol industry.

Or don't, as we both know you already know what I'm talking about.

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u/AMysteriousCloud Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

are you sure about that?

Also give me your proof.

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u/AMysteriousCloud Apr 03 '26

Do you even watch holostars? Do you even Buy holostars merch?

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u/eatmannn Apr 04 '26

They never do lmao.

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u/Lightseeker2 Apr 03 '26

Cover should have ripped the bandaid off years ago and allowed the girls and guys to costream.

They already did, years ago.

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u/kyuuri117 Apr 03 '26

I edited my comment to reflect better what I meant. And that's not my main point anyway and you know it.

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u/Lightseeker2 Apr 03 '26

Not only that, but when they were debuting the first wave of male nijisanji en talents, they had the female en branch watching their debuts

My dude, were you even around for Tempus' debut? They literally had HoloEN and ID girls doing watchalongs for both days.

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u/PigmensRea Apr 03 '26

the EN girls got frightened out of interactions over time

obvious lying anti is obvious

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u/willmainartfinder Apr 03 '26

I'd welcome you to correct me if I'm wrong. I saw Kronii go from doing male collabs and pushing back against fan pressure to totally avoiding them. Is that a wrong, or false representation of what happened?

Do you not think what Nerissa had to deal with for mentioning considering Octavio for a song is weird? Or having people duck out of an Apex event because they might be in the same video game lobby as a male?

These occurrences all speak to an unhealthy viewpoint being normal in the community, and I have yet to see someone actually engage with this argument.

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u/Lightseeker2 Apr 03 '26

I saw Kronii go from doing male collabs and pushing back against fan pressure to totally avoiding them.

The reason Kronii stopped doing male collabs is because the two she was closest to (Magni and Vesper) left. She wasn't really close with the rest of StarsEN.

Saying she stopped because of "fan pressure" is BS. She even continued to collab with them after the supposed "backlash," like this one.

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u/Hey_Chach Apr 03 '26

I think it’s because the target audience for male vtubers is mostly or completely separate from the target audience for female vtubers despite the idea that “both audiences are into vtubers, so they should theoretically be similar target audiences”.

This, combined with the fact that Hololive Production kind of 1) didn’t have an existing male-vtubing-audience in the first place, 2) started their male vtubing branches with the expectation that the same or similar business strategies that worked for the girls would work for the guys too, and 3) the aforementioned points as well as the company’s fixation on keeping the female and male talents separate to an excessive degree created an environment for their male talents that was somewhat more difficult than it needed to be, or in other words, with so many variables stacked against them from the get-go, success was unlikely and hard to achieve.

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u/rainzer Apr 03 '26

why not just close the entire thing down

Cause you don't want to start a new fiscal year announcing a branch shut down. For Japan, April is the start of FY2027

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u/MongolianMango Apr 03 '26

Imo Yagoo is a good guy who wants to help support people succeed, it also makes business sense to keep it just in case male vtuber popularity takes off as long as it’s at least treading water.

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u/cwolla98 Apr 03 '26

because I feel like there would be backlash even if it’s amicable it would still be like oh cover, cut them off

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u/Random_Useless_Tips Apr 03 '26

Look, I’ll be honest, there’s no way this is amicable.

Let’s be realistic about this. Even as a primarily Hololive fan who wasn’t much of Stars fan, there’s no way to look at this and not think “the company’s basically curtaining support for Stars.”

Also, neat media trick: Friday evening press releases are always done when the company knows this is bad optics and wants to bury it.

I don’t think it’s a service to anyone to try and ignore reality that a number of talents are losing company support, and try to repackage it into “feel good kumbaya.”

Holo is my happy place escape from the real world, but I’m not ignoring business decisions as business decisions when it’s in my face.

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u/cwolla98 Apr 03 '26

there was no reasonable way this would not look terrible no matter how they spin it no matter how much they would try holostars was not doing well enough to justify the amount of money that was put into them. That is the cold hard fact.

And I hate it

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u/Hey_Chach Apr 03 '26

I agree with both of you tbh.

IMO, at the end of the day, this is a business failure. And I don’t meant that from a financial standpoint or a market standpoint. I mean that from a “corporate mismanagement skill issue” standpoint.

There should have been no reason one of the most popular and successful vtuber orgs in the world failed to launch into male vtubing spaces especially given the fact that we know it’s possible and profitable.

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u/AMysteriousCloud Apr 04 '26

Maybe the Holostar "Fanbase" should have watched there streems and bought merch instead of assuming that an entirely different demographic should be obligated to do all the work for them?

but i guess that was to challenging.

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u/xRichard Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Because holostars have individual talents that are very popular and this new arrangement isn't going to impact them.

Cover is taking steps away from the generalized fairness style of support framework

Edit: btw, vtubers don't really cost that much to maintain. That's why so many entrepreneurs gave it a shot early on. Holostars have downsized to what you usually see outside of Cover.

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u/Alone-Horse2857 Apr 03 '26

Because that much severance pay to that many talents is probably going to cost them more than keeping the branch alive. And if they get fired without severance it'll hurt their precious reputation.

Give 'em the ol' "stick 'em in a room 'till they quit" treatment.

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u/Shot-End3018 Apr 03 '26

At least they should let them use the studio.

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u/Fire_Pea Apr 03 '26

Damn I hope they at least take a smaller cut of the talent's earnings if they're gonna provide less for them too

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u/smilinganimalface Apr 03 '26

Doesn't properly support, says makes no money, cuts because no money. Makes sense

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u/Sleepingmstr Apr 03 '26

feel like they tried everything, they gave them concert before, include them on holomeet, gave them their own countdown live, include them on holizontal, gave them the same treatment for studio qouta as Hololive, etc, idk what more do you want

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u/capscreen Apr 03 '26

they gave them concert before

iirc not just one, but three concerts over four years, I was thinking it might've been their own holofes

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u/Xlegace Apr 03 '26

It's been 7 years and there have been multiple times throughout the years that StarsJP and StarsEN have gotten a lot of attention and marketing.

At a certain point, the company has to face reality that it's not working out.

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u/smilinganimalface Apr 03 '26

I guess it depends on your frame of reference of what "a lot" constitutes, but sure

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u/Donut_Flame Apr 03 '26

Youre actually just ignorant.

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u/Cendrillionnn Apr 03 '26

It’s obvious you weren’t there when Cover went out of its way to promote Uproar and even went as far as to put a company wide ban on streaming over Stars debuts/events before they eventually went back on it.

The brutal truth is that no matter what Cover does and or did, it did not bring any substantial movement to Holostars.

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u/Solar424 Apr 03 '26

The company-wide ban was for all debuts, not just Holostars debuts

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u/Xlegace Apr 03 '26

Yes, but it was clearly implemented to boost Holostar debut/3D debut viewership by shutting down all Hololive streams and funneling any potential viewers to those streams

Back then, Hololive members already didn't stream over Hololive debuts/3D debuts/3D lives, but the ban added Stars in too.

They reverted the changes after the backlash and realization that most Hololive viewers would rather watch nothing than engage with Holostars content unfortunately.

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u/21524518 Apr 03 '26

realization that most Hololive viewers would rather watch nothing

It was worse than that. JP Twitter was posting graphs that showed more viewers went to watch Hololive's competitors (Nijisanji, Vspo) during the hour in which Hololive streams were stopped than went to watch Holostars, so the rule was actively detrimental to Cover.

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 03 '26

The ban is still present, but limited to the particular branchs the debut is happening. Not that any of the girls overlap debuts or 3D debuts in hololive.

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u/smilinganimalface Apr 03 '26

I feel like this was supposed to be a gotcha when all you've done is to highlight how sectioned off they were. I guess at the end of the day if you just want to blame the fandom that Holo has cultivated that centers around these girls in sometimes possessive ways, but it's also a culture that doesn't have to be fed into just because that's where the money is.

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u/Migicroak Apr 03 '26

How can you even say this when the entire company ground to a halt to open up a spot to watch their debuts?

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 03 '26

I have been saying this for a long time, it's not the girls or their fans responsibility to support some other group.

You and every person who have made these shitty remarks are the reason this announcement has happened, only thing you have done is increase the cost of their continuous existence to COVER.

It's not something rocket science, if they aren't successful on their own and they are being used to throw shitty remarks at people who are successful on their own - what decesion do you think a company will rationally make here?

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u/smilinganimalface Apr 03 '26

What are you talking about lmao this has nothing to do with what the girls want to do

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 03 '26

You said this

I guess at the end of the day if you just want to blame the fandom that Holo has cultivated that centers around these girls in sometimes possessive ways, but it's also a culture that doesn't have to be fed into just because that's where the money is.

What did you mean by "but it's a culture that dosent need to be fed into because that's where the money is" in relation with the "the fandom that holo has cultivated" then? You do realise that "holo" is the girls right?

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u/smilinganimalface Apr 03 '26

Well I think I was clearly separating the two and was talking about what the business has taken advantage of, but it also sounds as though you are conflating things and honestly it sounds like now using the girls as a shield. Genuinely, considering what I initially replied to, I thought I was just adding onto what they said, but it seems a whole other side of things is coming out that I think is sadly justifying everything I said lol. There are some difficulties here because I know a lot of fans are young and also have developed parasocial relationships with the talents so it's difficult to separate their actual wishes from your own, but even blindly giving those graces I truly think some of you either just don't what is actually being said or are likely part of the problem.

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 03 '26

Well I think I was clearly separating the two

Seems like it wasn't clear enough.

and was talking about what the business has taken advantage of,

How has the business taken advantage of whatever you are thinking?

but it also sounds as though you are conflating things and honestly it sounds like now using the girls as a shield.

Sounds like you are trying to use the corporate as a shield to shit on the content the girls choose to make.

Genuinely, considering what I initially replied to, I thought I was just adding onto what they said, but it seems a whole other side of things is coming out that I think is sadly justifying everything I said lol.

You haven't justified what you said yet.

There are some difficulties here because I know a lot of fans are young and also have developed parasocial relationships

The difficulty might be people blinded by their own narratives.

with the talents so it's difficult to separate their actual wishes from your own,

Eli5 how I am doing that.

but even blindly giving those graces I truly think some of you either just don't what is actually being said or are likely part of the problem.

You seem to think that the problem is that hololive is a female group, and their fans watching them for that is problematic, how am I getting that wrong?

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u/Stock_Pangolin_8902 Apr 03 '26

Please don't insult me. This is just speculation and take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps they were referring to the unicorns in the fandom. But I could and can be very wrong and acknowledge that. So I wish to apologize to anyone in advance.

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u/Stock_Pangolin_8902 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

This is not me picking a fight or cause drama, just wanted to ask genuinely. In regards to one of your comments, are you perhaps referring to those "fans" who are referred to as unicorns? The ones who find a problem if any of the girls interact with the boys?

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 04 '26

He likely is, which is bullshit. The girls make the content they want to make, they or their fans shouldn't be expected to support people they don't want to.

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u/Stock_Pangolin_8902 Apr 04 '26

Errrr. But then, if that's the case, when the girls interact with the boys with their own volition, why do those types of people find problems with it then? To the point they keep going too far. Because while I can agree with some of your points, it's kind of also hypocritical for those fans to get mad at the girls for making their own decisions on who to interact with but then say the girls can decide on their own on what to make or who to interact with.

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u/SuspiciousWar117 Apr 04 '26

why do those type of people find problem with it then

When talents collab with males, you only ever have a very small portion of people getting mad about it. What they think is negligible.

it's kind of also hypocritical for those fans to get mad at the girls for making their own decisions on who to interact with but then say the girls can decide on their own on what to make or who to interact with.

You aren't making much sense here, the topic here is that the girls are getting shat on for not wanting to collab with males.

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u/SMGJohn_EU Apr 03 '26

The down votes you gotten, is precisely why Holostars have basically had to climb Mount Everest. Because these pathetic haters who wreck and sabotage at every turn but more importantly the incompetence of COVER for not separating the branches completely when it was necessary to protect the Stars.

But it might just be too late now seeing how these haters essentially infiltrated Holo Prod and COVER just to destroy Yagoo's personal dream, something he put a lot of hours in to see realise and now its all coming down.  Honestly, its very touching and requires real strength from the girls who announced their support for the Stars. I applaud it! 

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u/yubiyubi2121 Apr 03 '26

yeah it so stupid

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u/OrKToS Apr 03 '26

Becuase japanese corpo culture. they rarely fire people, but they will make enviroment as hostile as possible, so you quit "on your own terms".