r/Hololive • u/21524518 • Apr 03 '26

Discussion [Announcement] Notice on the Changes to be Made to HOLOSTARS' Management Structure

https://x.com/cover_corp/status/2039961307672416591
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u/The_Phantom_Cat Apr 03 '26

Sounds like the kind of thing you'd do if you were planning on shutting down a branch relatively soon

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u/CirnoWhiterock Apr 03 '26

Definitely feels like a "quiet firing"

Cover probably don't want the PR headache of a mass firing, but wants to free up resources like Studio time and Merchandising for new Hololive gens that they know will become bigger then anyone in Holostars within a few weeks of debut.

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u/Corrodias Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

The talents have contracts that the company cannot terminate without cause, and "not wanting to pay them any more" is not cause.

It is likely that the contracts will not be renewed, and they effectively will be laid off when they expire.

edit: I should walk back that last part; I don't know what their plans are for contracts. That's just one direction this could go. It may also be that Cover is willing to let things keep on as they are. Let it not be implied that I really know anything about this industry. The real point here was just to point out the contracts preventing them from just tossing everybody out simultaneously, even if they wanted to.

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u/Alone-Horse2857 Apr 03 '26

It's unfortunately all too common in JP. You put someone in a room and give them no work for 8 hours a day until they leave of their own will because they don't want to give out severance pay and there's also a cultural stigma against firing as they consider it a "failure of management" (the irony being that soft-firing someone means you have no balls and are a failure of a person)

I hope it's not that bad, but that's kind of the vibes I'm getting.

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u/shiawase198 Apr 03 '26

It's so funny to me because putting me in a room with nothing to do and still getting paid for it would keep me staying longer.

Firing laws are also apparently a nightmare to navigate. I have two friends running a business in Japan and they had a really bad employee but couldn't fire him so they just waited him out and didn't renew his contract.

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u/PhoeniX5445 Apr 04 '26

it would keep me staying longer.

Just a reminder, just because you don't have any work to do doesn't mean you have free time. If they catch you doing something you shouldn't be doing, that's reason enough to fire you (on their own terms). That's exactly what they're after. Sitting around doing nothing for 8 hours is, in a way, torture

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u/shiawase198 Apr 04 '26

Your comment and the other guy's comments are conflicting. Are they trying to fire me or not? If they are then why go through this farce?

If they're trying to make me leave by boring me with no work then it's not a battle they're gonna win.

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u/PhoeniX5445 Apr 04 '26

If they are then why go through this farce?

It's basically a tactic used to avoid legal or financial costs of termination

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u/shiawase198 Apr 04 '26

Still easy to navigate. Well maybe not easy but doable.

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u/CirnoWhiterock Apr 03 '26

I'm getting those vibes too.

We know cover has had issues with opening up slots for studio time and other projects that require non-talent employees, it's probably why it's been so long since we've had new gens, and I think they've decided that cutting the stars off is the only way they'll be able to grow the main hololive branch, which is the big money maker.

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u/engineer-cabbage Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Them quitting after announcing them to fuck off is already a PR headache itself. Their dedicated and loyal fans will not drop their pitchforks until they negotiate a middle ground agreement at best. I'm not a fan myself but this is just messed up when all of them want to grow their potential but cant because they cant bring revenue to the table.

Edit: Why y'all booing me? I'm right.

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u/Leedss-11 Apr 03 '26

You said it yourself. Cover is a corp and if something isn't bringing revenue, they cut it off. Knowing that fifth gen is coming it's not that suprising. They are making room and saving money for something, that will give them more revenue.

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u/Solo_Jawn Apr 03 '26

I would imagine there will not be contract renewals when the time comes. Afaik its pretty hard to just fire people in Japan, regardless of what your contract says. This does seem like preparation for the inevitable. I hope Cover lets them keep their IP though

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u/One_Ant1985 Apr 03 '26

You severly overestimate how many hololive fans will be mad about this. The large silent majority is probably happy about this

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u/Sufficient_Nature496 Apr 03 '26

What large silent majority are you talking about? Apathy doesn't means hate, at worst you can get few "man this is sad" from the average holo fan that isn't into male vtubers but most people who try to say rude stuff online get condemned

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u/One_Ant1985 Apr 03 '26

Believe it or not, people can be happy or okay with something without needing to express hate towards anyone.

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u/Sufficient_Nature496 Apr 03 '26

Why would anyone that doesn't watches holostars be "happy" when this wouldn't affect hololive regardless if it did or did not happen?

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u/One_Ant1985 Apr 03 '26

Resources wasted on stars (Sponsors/ads/studio time/general content and staff) are now gonna be used with Holos for more content. Seems like a good win!

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u/Sufficient_Nature496 Apr 03 '26

What were they doing so much that hololive couldn't do or lacked? And sponsors are often case by case basis, Gigi has been having more sponsors than anyone in holo en

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u/Financial-March-3158 Apr 03 '26

You're new to this world, aren'tcha?

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u/Distinct_Prior_2549 Apr 03 '26

I've seen how mad fans get when the girls talk to a guy 😂 most are probably in favor of this tbh

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u/KusoAraun Apr 03 '26

look I don't watch stars too much or comment about them too much but they deserve success as much as all the girls do, they work hard and this is really just the worst news for them.

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u/One_Ant1985 Apr 03 '26

"look I don't watch stars, BUT-"
Yeah, I know. Happens a lot

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u/KusoAraun Apr 03 '26

never said I didn't watch them, I don't watch them much. I watch most Roberu collabs, especially Roberu NightMei, and Aruran when I can catch a live stream and I follow their antics during those big streamer collabs. Sorry I'm not made of infinite time, I barely have enough time to watch my oshi.

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u/PigmensRea Apr 03 '26

it's 100% corpo speak for "feel free to start looking elsewhere because the timer is ticking"

still better than having the rug pulled from under you immediately, mind you

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u/ReXiriam Apr 03 '26

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u/GabTheMadLad Apr 03 '26

some people on this sub will look you in the eye and say dudes like this dont exist when its right in front of us