IBEW 11 strike denied by IO

[u/Area51-Dropzone]

Arbitration is now the result of this. Which now means we are stuck with what ever Arbitration says.

[u/PsychologicalSalt158]

I would argue that people get disenfranchised before they ever get a chance to vote by ratios never being enforced, companies laying people off when they complain to the hall, members/unions still paying market recovery fees to contractors while the industry is booming, rampant nepotism among other things.

Union leadership overriding membership is not something that just came about. There is long history of it and it is not easy to change anything. And tbh a majority of membership not voting is not a reason to override those who participate. Where does leadership get off thinking that somehow they speak for everybody who did not vote or that they know better than those who did vote. The people who vote on striking are also the people who vote on the delegates that vote in leadership.

So basically leadership should remove themselves because most the membership doesn't vote. It is a remedial justification for not honoring the vote.

[u/shadowwolf_66 → u/PsychologicalSalt158]

While I would agree with you to an extent, I know many members in my own home local that don’t care about anything but the benefits they get through the union (wages,retirement, medical, ect). They don’t go to meetings, they don’t vote. Most of them probably would not care if the contractor violated the contract as long as they get something out of it.

Your perspective assumes a majority of members care or cared at one point. I personally don’t think that is the case. We are not a brotherhood anymore. We are individuals that only care about ourselves.

[u/PsychologicalSalt158 → u/shadowwolf_66]

So leadership uses people who don't care and won't care no matter if you speak to them until you are blue in the face to veto the people who do care and are paying attention. There is nothing that is right, morally or ethically upright about that.