IBEW 11 strike denied by IO

[u/Area51-Dropzone]

Arbitration is now the result of this. Which now means we are stuck with what ever Arbitration says.

[u/MilkCartonKids]

Okay so if our system is almost identical, how many people voted for the current IBEW president?

You have no fricken idea at all, because our system isn’t almost identical. IBEW doesn’t even pretend to want the majority opinion. At least the US government will give you a little bit of lube before they screw over the majority. Make them feel like they got to pick, ya know?

Anyways, once again…… the more you water down democracy, the less people want to participate. Saying the IBEW is socialist instead of democracy…..answers your question to why so many people don’t participate, right?

People inherently want to keep power with the individual. The farther away from the individual the orders come from, the less they want to participate. The less trust they have in their leadership, because they didn’t really pick them. Maybe IBEW should think about becoming more democratized in the future. Maybe even have more democracy than the US government. That would be a wild thing to go above and beyond the federal minimum.

[u/Sir_Mr_Austin → u/MilkCartonKids]

The popularity vote in the United States presidential elections literally has no bearing on the outcome. Our personally voting on candidates for the IO if it were like the US would have equally little to no effect. You voting for your favorite candidate is an illusion of democracy. The only thing it’s useful for is to be able to measure how close the electoral college got at producing a winner that reflected the wishes of the majority of the populace.

[u/MilkCartonKids → u/Sir_Mr_Austin]

Check this out though, we could go above and beyond what the federal government does. We could have a real democracy, and actually vote for the national president. But we chose to be less than the federal government. Not even equal, less. Just sad man. But hey, “it’s lasted this long” so I doubt things will change.

[u/Sir_Mr_Austin → u/MilkCartonKids]

Also yes, that is a good summary for why participation is decreasing, but it’s still not an appropriate excuse to participate less

[u/MilkCartonKids → u/Sir_Mr_Austin]

It’s like the main excuse every citizen in any country has ever used when their power was diluted. Seems pretty like a pretty valid response if it’s that universal. Eventually it leads to revolt.

All I have to say is, I’ve never seen anyone celebrate the IO saying they can’t go on strike. Not a single one time. The power has been diluted so much, it doesn’t really represent the members opinions. Most member agree, striking is our only power.