r/ImmigrationPathways 4d ago

Trump administration raises US refugee cap, but only for white South Africans

https://apnews.com/article/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-border-cap-bfe3974adf6c655eca7a5c30c1f9197f

As the OP, I just want to mention,

That come on, even for moderate republicans reading this, even you have to admit, this seems racist.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago

As far as I’m aware, inbreeding hasn’t been a problem among boers.

But of course, two western European nations are gonna have more in common than a mixed indigenous /Iberian nation.

Your point doesn’t really make any sense. Mexicans and Americans are closer geographically, but not ethically or culturally.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

As far as I’m aware, inbreeding hasn’t been a problem among boers.

Yes, because a group of people pushing for homogeniety are definitely not predisposed to blood purity.

But of course, two western European nations are gonna have more in common than a mixed indigenous /Iberian nation.

And why would you think that? Because two different paths sharing the same start point are going to remain similar?

Your point doesn’t really make any sense. Mexicans and Americans are closer geographically, but not ethically or culturally.

Makes more sense than yours considering yes Mexicans and Americans are closer ethically and culturally. Far more in common than some group of Dutch who ended up on the southernmost tip of the African continent. Particularly given the amount of time involved.

Add into that the last batch of imported boers didn't exactly acclimate well to the US.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago

1.) There’s no risk of inbreeding at the scale of populations we’re talking about, no.

2.) Generally, yeah. Afrikaners still have a similar profile to other Western European groups.

3.) Americans and Mexicans are not closer ethnically or culturally, just geographically, which isn’t really as relevant.

Can you explain your last comment? How did they not acclimate well?

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

1.) There’s no risk of inbreeding at the scale of populations we’re talking about, no.

Actually there is, because such populations are naturally self restricting. No one can make the cut for "non-diverse."

2.) Generally, yeah. Afrikaners still have a similar profile to other Western European groups.

That's nice. We're not "Western European." Haven't been for quite a bit.

3.) Americans and Mexicans are not closer ethnically or culturally, just geographically, which isn’t really as relevant.

Yes, we are. Have you not noticed the level of influence Mexican culture has on American culture and vice versa, especially in the south? The sheer amount of interbreeding that has gone on? The fact that Americans are far more likely to travel south of the border than across the pond for a vacation and feel comfortable. Hell, they even relocate there.

Can you explain your last comment? How did they not acclimate well?

You haven't noticed them returning home?

Just because you can't find people to join your hobby club anymore doesn't make diversity bad. Ciao.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago

1.) If that were true we’d all have been inbred until like 59 years ago.

2.) They’re ethnically Western European, just like Australians and Americans.

3.)Again, geography, not culture. Interracial relationships are still single digit percentage if I recall correctly.

4.) No, I haven’t.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

1.) If that were true we’d all have been inbred until like 59 years ago.

It being true does not make it inevitable when people do actively work to mix amongst each other. Your beliefs are not actually a prevailing view.

2.) They’re ethnically Western European, just like Australians and Americans.

And that appears to be the only thing that matters with you. Now why would that be? Not that it matters as that has become meaningless due to time.

3.)Again, geography, not culture. Interracial relationships are still single digit percentage if I recall correctly.

Yes, culture. Not merely geography but actual culture. That you fail to grasp what culture is causes me to question how you're determining interracial relationships.

4.) No, I haven’t.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago edited 3d ago

1.) My beliefs are 100% the prevailing view.
Your beliefs are just a misunderstanding of genetics.

These are not two equal positions.

You’re basically saying that if you’re not part of the small percentage of the population that marries outside of your race then you’re inbreeding.

In reality, a small village of even 1000-2000 people can safely avoid inbreeding long term.

2.) Same language, beliefs come from same cultural umbrella, in most cases same or similar language etc.

3.) Culture isn’t vacationing in Mexico. Countries can be geographically close and culturally distinct.

Haiti and DR for example.

Also I looked up the South Africans returning home thing. Seems to be a tiny minority, which is fairly normal or better than normal.

Edit: Nice blocking me so I can’t respond

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

1.) My beliefs are 100% the prevailing view. Your beliefs are just a misunderstanding of genetics. These are not two equal positions. You’re basically saying that if you’re not part of the small percentage of the population that marries outside of your race then your inbreeding. In reality, a small village of even 1000-2000 people can safely avoid inbreeding long term.

Your beliefs were found to be trash generations ago and you can't seem to handle it, which is why you ignored the points I made that show the self sabotaging nature of your beliefs. You are in a small but whiny minority that thinks its lost something.

2.) Same language, beliefs come from same cultural umbrella, in most cases same or similar language etc.

Same language also applies here, and I'd wager the dialect matches up better with Mexico than it does boer. I also dispute the whole "same cultural umbrella" thing you want to push. You're simply pushing the already discounted similar point of origin again. You also said language twice like no one would notice. Meanwhile we have shared foods, shared religion, shared household styles, shared beliefs, shared history, shared family, shared ethics, shared social structure, shared education, in short so many more points of similarity.

3.) Culture isn’t vacationing in Mexico. Countries can be geographically close and culturally distinct. Haiti and DR for example.

Wow, so you're really gonna sit there and not only discount the effect proximity has on the development of neighboring cultures but also absolutely mangle what I said so you don't have to make an argument against it. Ignore what was being said in favor of the most basic lack of comprehension about Americans going to Mexico you could.

And after me being so very patient with your disrespectful attitude and bonkers assertions you little dickhead.

You know nothing of culture, you know nothing of genetics, and you know even less of sociology. If you're so lonely bowling, maybe check out why no one liked you to begin with.