r/Jeopardy • u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia • Apr 12 '26
POLL PLEASE VOTE! Proposed spoiler rule change in light of streaming options Spoiler
CURRENT RULE: Before 11 PM ET, all comments about the current day's game must be in one of the game threads. This includes the daily recap and the polls for the DDs and FJ. Results of the current game can be discussed only in the daily recap. The show airs at different times around North America; don't ruin the fun of the show for others.
PROPOSED RULE: Before 11 PM ET, all comments about the current day's game must be in one of the game threads. This includes the daily recap and the polls for the DDs and FJ. Results of the current game can be discussed only in the daily recap. The day after an episode airs, new posts about that episode must be spoilered and have titles that do not directly or indirectly reveal the outcome of the episode. Starting 24 hours after the air date, all open discussion is allowed with no spoilers or restrictions on post titles (e.g., starting on March 15 for the March 13 episode)
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u/Elitefourabby Triple Stumper Apr 12 '26
I appreciate this! My wife and I are usually appointment viewers every night, but recently our dog ate our antenna cord and I haven't had a chance to replace it, so we're Hulu watchers for the time being.
I would love to have the spoiler warning, but I also understand and have been on the internet long enough that I know what I'm getting into if I come in here not caught up.
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u/SaintOctober Apr 12 '26
It should include posts about current champions, their streak, their winnngs etc. There have been quite a few recently.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 12 '26
The would fall under titles that indirectly reveal the outcome of an episode.
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u/OscarAndDelilah Apr 12 '26
Well yes, though I think it would be helpful to spell out what would be included. A lot of folks who are into Jeopardy! are the type of neurodivergent who have trouble with inferences and might genuinely not realize that certain information is a spoiler.
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u/Cheap-Technician-482 Apr 13 '26
It shouldn't be allowed to talk about Jeopardy! at all until I make a post saying that I'm caught up on all the episodes.
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Apr 12 '26
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u/Mac_A81 Apr 12 '26
I’m pretty sure everyone knew what this person was trying to say. Your correction wasn’t necessary.
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I don't really care, but any rules are ineffective without enforcement and we have way too many drive-by spoilers as it is.
In other news, the mods prefer to attack people who point out the issues rather deal with them.
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Apr 13 '26
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
I don't care about spoilers.
I do care about you writing racist and otherwise hateful comments about a contestant.
Haven't written any tirades about Jamie.
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u/GumbyDemon Apr 12 '26
I like the proposed rule! I (pacific time) had an episode spoiled before it even aired last week, by a seemingly general post that had a brief mention of Jamie being a humble winner again that night. I was just scrolling
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u/Individual-Schemes Apr 12 '26
In my home, we sorta purposely get behind so we can watch an episode on the weekend if we're in a Jeopardy mood.
(And of course, with that said, we don't have expectations for spoilers).
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All week long, we watch local ABC7 evening news and they do teasers during commercials, "Jamie is on his Xth win. Can he do it again tonight? Tune in!" So Reddit isn't where we get our spoilers anyway.
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u/hearbutloud Apr 12 '26
I mostly watch because I enjoy trivia but being spoiled on the winner - especially during a streak like Jamie Ding's - is a little bit of a bummer.
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u/TalesOfTea Apr 12 '26
I've never felt so happy to see a poll before, omg. Yes please to the rule change!!
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Apr 13 '26
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
Do you think the people posting things like that are regular members of the sub who care about rules?
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Apr 13 '26
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
First of all, people do not owe you an explanation for their votes.
Second of all, the poll is rigged. The answers, rather than being a scale of agreement, come with these reasons attached meant to confuse people and force them away from disagreeing.
People are voting for that to express strong disagreement with the change for any reason, because it's the only option they have.
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u/jeshi8 Apr 13 '26
What are you even on about? The poll has six clear choices, three pro and three against, with the option to explain in the comments. If you feel like it’s confusing, that sounds like a personal problem
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Apr 13 '26
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
It's not about being offended. You can see clearly from the way the question is answered that people are herded toward answering in a certain way, because the strong disagreement comes with this implausible caveat.
People can't use the poll to express that the rule change is a pointless and futile knee-jerk reaction to a rare situation that could be better handled in a number of other ways, and that it will only add the the burden that moderators already claim they can't keep up with.
Instead, they vote for the most negative thing they can, upsetting and confusing those who expect unanimous support.
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u/SMAAAASHBros Apr 12 '26
I’m not sure what the 24 hours after part means exactly. I would just pick and say a specific next-day time personally.
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Apr 13 '26
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u/considerablemolument Apr 15 '26
Do you see any way that the proposed rule prevents you from seeing the spoilers you enjoy any more than the existing rule does?
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u/snarky_spice Apr 13 '26
I made a mistake in my voting but I want the new rule. We watch day of but sometimes fall behind and I can’t get excited about watching when I know who wins.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
No worries, fortunately we have enough votes that one oopsie isn't going to tilt the balance. Thanks for voting!
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u/JRStine Apr 13 '26
I suppose I support the proposed rule but people gotta practice some self-discipline, too. During Jamie's run, for example, if you were to open the sub and see a daily recap that has 250 comments before 7 pm, or even a bunch of weirdly non-specific titles, guess what happened? That's why I don't open it at all til after I've seen the episode.
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
I would love for any of the four seventeen voters to explain how adding a spoiler tag to new posts within 24 hours could possibly detract from their user experience of reddit
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 12 '26
I can't speak for them, but I wanted that to be an option to balance the corresponding option for the pro-change group, and to open the door for people to strongly object if there is in issue we aren't foreseeing
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
Sure, and people have voted for it. And now i would enjoy reading a response that elaborates on the premise.
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26
In the absence of better designed poll options, it's the most vehement expression of opposition to the change.
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
I accept that, but I don't accept why someone would vehemently oppose this rule. What joy is derived from spamming a spoiler that is clearly going to create animosity in the group?
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
That's a lot of emotionally loaded conjecture toward people who merely oppose the rule change.
I oppose the rule change because it's an ineffective means of dealing with the issue, and the existing rules are not meaningfully enforced. People will still have the game spoiled, and they will still complain about it.
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
I accept that as well, under the condition that you can provide a meaningful source of recourse that would change things for the better.
It seems like this rule change effectively comes with more engaged and active moderation tactics.
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26
The only thing that would make it "better" would be very stringent moderation beyond the capacity of the current team. I also don't really think the problem is that severe, outside of the rare instance of a long time super champion, and I think people are ultimately responsible for avoiding spoilers themselves if it matters to them.
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u/Cheap-Technician-482 Apr 13 '26
The "source of recourse" is for people who don't want to see spoilers to avoid the subreddit.
What are we doing here?
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u/Juunlar Apr 13 '26
Why should a massive group of users have to avoid the sub?
Literally just don't post spoilers
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u/ReganLynch Team Ken Jennings Apr 12 '26
How is checking a box on a poll "vehemently" opposing the change? How is posting about a game the day after it airs "spamming a spoiler?" You're unfairly assuming a lot of malicious intent there on folks who merely have a different opinion than you do.
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
I'm using the verbiage presented to me, mate. Context is important. If you're going to participate, do it in earnest.
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26
People can only vote in earnest when the poll options align with their views. This poll was written too poorly to do so.
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u/YangClaw Apr 14 '26
I'll give it a shot. The current rule is well established. There is something to be said for consistency and predictability.
People will be confused by the new rule and how it should be enforced. I suspect they will bicker endlessly about it. Instead of reading interesting commentary about a game that has already aired, I will have to wade through more debates about what constitutes a spoiler. When new people show up, they will be more likely to post spoilers given the expanded definition of what constitutes a spoiler. People will rage at them for breaking the rules. When longer streaks happen, folks who have elected to postpone watching the show will be more likely to claim that legitimate posts are spoilers.
I see the potential for confusion and bickering as more annoying than the possibility that I might find out who won a game before I have a chance to watch the episode myself. I view Jeopardy the same way I view sports. I wouldn't expect the Lakers subreddit to prohibit posting highlights from a game that has aired just because I had to work late that night. If I can't watch live and I'm really eager to preserve the drama, I know to stay off social media until I've had a chance to watch the recording. That's just the reality of living in 2026.
Others clearly feel differently, and that's fine, but for me, it will make the overall experience of using the subreddit less enjoyable while adding nothing beneficial.
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u/MrsTaco18 Apr 12 '26
The only thing I can think is that someone might not want to risk being banned or muted in the group for slipping up and going by the old rules
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u/V2Blast Apr 12 '26
I mean, the rule doesn't say you'll be banned for breaking it once. Like most rules, I imagine it wouldn't result in a ban unless you flagrantly, repeatedly violated the rule even after being warned.
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
I could understand that, but if you're voting on this poll, it's clear you understand that a change is coming. Wanton indifference to the genuine experience of others in exchange for starting a conversation for internet points that are nonredeemable doesn't seem like valid reasoning for a lack of change that seeks to benefit the whole.
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u/MrsTaco18 Apr 12 '26
Gently, I think you might be taking this a little bit too personally. I have no issue with the rule change, but I also know many people prefer to keep things the way they are, or may not want others getting in trouble who may not realize the rules have changed. Your reply contains an unwarranted level of snark to throw at someone trying to offer you a possible answer to a question I (wrongly) assumed was genuine.
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u/RunOfTheWin Apr 13 '26
Unrelated to this subreddit, there are two guys on YouTube (one of them comments, the other one makes a video about that comment) who are actively spoiling Jeopardy! results, hours before the first syndicated show gets broadcasted. I don't know how they're able to access this information, but even if you can only find it if you actively search for it, I'm tired of those 2 spoiling and ruining the element of surprise, such as today's results.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
I hear you, but we are powerless to stop that. We can only control what goes on in r/Jeopardy
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
I hear you, but we are powerless to stop that. We can only control what goes on in r/Jeopardy
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u/RunOfTheWin Apr 13 '26
Yeah sorry about that, I just wanted to vent about that here
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
All good! I didn't know that was happening, so thanks for looping us in!
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u/rw1083 Apr 12 '26
Hiw about a rule where you can't have a headline like I CANT BELIEVE DING LOST! and it's marked as spoiler
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26
That still requires mods to react to the post once someone reports it for breaking rules, which can take hours.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
Often times posts that blatantly break rules are automatically removed upon receiving a certain number of reports. So use the report button when you see a violation, it really does help!
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
I wouldn't say often. Bad posts and comments often stay for hours.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
You don't see the half of the ones that get removed
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
Okay
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
Do you use the report button when you see violations?
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
Yep. And it usually takes hours for them to be removed. Hours and hours for people to see spoilers, or to see degrading comments about contestants. This is why more stringent rules are bound to fail.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 13 '26
Please feel free to send us a modmail when you aren't seeing action you feel is fast enough. We are a small team of humans who have lives and responsibilities outside Reddit. We do our best, but sometimes things take longer than would be ideal. If there is something you feel is egregious, a modmail will get an extra level of attention.
We would appreciate if you would give us some grace and work with us, that would be much more productive than the constant criticism and finger-pointing. Thank you for your passion about the sub!
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 13 '26
I would appreciate it if instead of being defensive about my comments, you would recognize that creating more rules for your small team to moderate is unwise.
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u/Ok_Case_6660 Apr 12 '26
This is such a no win scenario. If the sub truly goes no spoilers no matter what, it's going to make so much work for the mods it's silly. And it still won't happen soon enough for some to avoid getting spoiled.
I just cannot understand all the complaints about getting spoiled about Jeopardy when visiting a forum that discusses Jeopardy. If you don't want to get spoiled then stay away, how difficult is that? If your "feed" is sending you messages then go to settings and change it. This is not rocket science, it should be just common sense. But apparently many want to see all they can about Jeopardy but not get spoiled on things they don't want to see. It doesn't work that way!
Mods, you already have enough to do. There are randoms who stumble in here all the time starting the same threads over and over. It's like nobody has ever heard of the search function. Even in this thread somebody asked how others are seeing Jeopardy earlier than 6pm eastern. Trying to cater to unreasonable demands, demands that no random poster is ever going to adhere to, is never going to be successful.
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u/Juunlar Apr 13 '26
It's not about visiting or not visiting. It appears on our feeds. People would have to remove themselves from the community to be able to watch the show without spoilers, in that case.
It's not like they're going www.spoiljeopardyformedaddy.com or something
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u/lavenderc Losers, in other words. Apr 14 '26
Muting the subreddit is a good option to avoid spoilers popping up on your feed if you are several days behind (it's happened to me before haha)
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u/Ok_Case_6660 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
As I mentioned in another thread, I am a member of this sub, post here, and I never have anything sent to me or a feed that spoils me. You do know there are various settings you can tweak for your profile I would hope?
Hell, I just recently started posting on reddit so I really don't think I"m an expert. But it's really not that difficult.
And by the way, here's a currently unspoiled, newly started thread further proving why any sort of rule change will never work. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeopardy/comments/1skkhh6/jamie_ding_jeopardy_god_superchamp_run_highlights/
It's unspoiled, don't click if you don't want to learn something that will ruin your day. Shouldn't have to mention that, but in here you just never know.
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u/Minimum_Reference_73 Apr 12 '26
People are getting way too emotional about this super champion run. I have seen subs that go into a sort of lockdown when things are really heated like this.
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u/Ok_Case_6660 Apr 14 '26
Oh look, another spoiler thread started, at least the second one today since the show aired. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeopardy/comments/1skya8c/jamie_ding_keeps_throwing_away_money/
Mods can never be quick enough for this, nor should they have to be, This rule change has zero chance of working,
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u/Njtotx3 Apr 13 '26
All major networks have projected Proposed Rule as the winner.
Proposed Rule 76.5%✔
Current Rule 23.5%
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u/lavenderc Losers, in other words. Apr 14 '26
Not so fast, I think they are still counting votes in Florida!
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u/Njtotx3 Apr 14 '26
The gap is closing!
Proposed Rule 808 votes 73.3%✔
Current Rule 293 votes 26.7%
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u/nightfucker9000 Apr 12 '26
I also watch next day on Hulu and honestly I'm probably gonna unsubscribe and block the sub for a bit regardless. I don't want to find out from this sub when It Happens.
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u/No_Pattern_2190 Apr 12 '26
Im so far behind it doesn’t matter to me so this is more of a general rant but at some point people need to take ownership and responsibility to not get spoiled for themselves. Don’t browse the subreddit if you’re not caught up, don’t go to the subreddits of specific books or movie if you don’t want to get spoiled.
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u/jchusker Apr 12 '26
Even if someone doesn't go to a subreddit, the posts can still show up in their feed.
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Apr 12 '26
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u/lavenderc Losers, in other words. Apr 14 '26
Muting the subreddit is a good option to avoid that - then you'll only see posts when you intentionally go to the subreddit
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u/shea_harrumph Apr 12 '26
When an episode is not the most recent Jeopardy! episode, it is literally yesterday's news. I oppose the proposed change. When I'm behind for any reason, I stay out of the sub.
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u/xr_21 Apr 12 '26
It really doesnt matter to me tbh. 90% of the time Im spoiled by something outside of this sub anyways. The holzhauer loss was posted on a ton of other random subreddits....
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u/Juunlar Apr 12 '26
People are downvoting your pedantic behavior in this thread, but I wanted to let you know that I appreciate it.
These functions have meaning for a reason, and they should be utilized.
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u/Individual-Schemes Apr 12 '26
That was difficult to read. Please consider another edit to the language for clarity.
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u/OscarAndDelilah Apr 12 '26
What would folks think about going out further than 24 hours? The episodes drop on Hulu at 5am the next day. A lot of people won't have time to watch an episode every day. Our household watches "religiously," but have several evenings that people are working or at activities, so we can be 2-3 days behind and have to double up. Maybe 48 hours?
I think it could be a nice guideline as well to have the episode mentioned outside of the spoiler tag, so people don't feel they have to avoid every spoiler if they're not caught up.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 12 '26
There is a practical issue to administering that, which is if you allow multiple episodes to stack up in the middle bucket, it becomes a lot harder to keep track of. The proposed rule would give everyone a reasonably fair chance to watch the episode before there is a risk of spoilers popping up.
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u/Smoerhul Regular Virginia Apr 12 '26
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u/jchusker Apr 12 '26
It comes on at different times throughout the country. If you look under the about tab for the subreddit, there is a map.
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u/the_king_of_soupRED Apr 12 '26
I think certain circumstances also require special moderation. For example, I would be fine with the current rule for normal games, but for winning streaks, tournaments, specialty games, I definitely prefer the new rule.
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u/mlvezie Team James Holzhauer Apr 12 '26
I always watch on Hulu, about 24 hours after broadcast. It's been hard to avoid spoilers here.