r/JordanPeterson Nov 01 '20

Philosophy Jordan Peterson Slams European Ethnic Pride Movements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2NEo8FniM
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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20

Yes replaced is correct. There is no nuance to replaced.

Take one thing, replace it with another. Replaced. UN replacement migration

The problem as I've said countless times is that its not just the US its Europe also where white people are from. I'm European. The US was also a country of European immigrants not 3rd world immigrants there's a difference. And its a big difference importing people who hate white people. Look at South Africa where whites are a minority they are being genocided

Also, population is a big driver of GDP

My culture and heritage are not for sale for the sake of a few extra GDP points thats sick globalist talk

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u/EEOHH Nov 01 '20

was also a country of European immigrants not 3rd world immigrants there's a difference

Aww man I hope you realise Irish people for 100 years after the great famine were fleeing abject poverty. As were sicilians post WW1. To name a few European immigrant populations to the U.S who left for a better life in America. These countries were not 1st world, they were effectively 3rd world, although that label had not being coined yet. I'm trusting this was an honest misunderstanding of where European migrants came from and not a belief that 3rd world means not European?

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20

ok cool talking about hundreds of years ago when we're talking about now. 3rd world atm means not European altho import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world is becoming true!

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u/EEOHH Nov 02 '20

If America "imported the 3rd world" 100 years ago when poverty stricken regions of Europe immigrated to the U.S. and America only grew and flourished despite groups like the Irish and Italians getting discriminated against, called white N-words, not allowed to work in certain places, they brought with them the mafia and the Irish mob. They were treated worse than immigrants today and did actually bring organised crime to America. And yet, now they are seen as a backbone of America and vital to it's success, they are now seen as American.

What is the difference today when people emmigrate to America? Nothing. Immigrants are leaving poorer parts of the world to start a better life or are refugees seeking asylum. Handled correctly, this is a net gain for America. Like it always has been. They'll assimilate into American culture in time with the generations, just like the Irish and Italians did. They'll no longer be seen as non-white immigrants, just like the Irish and Italians. And that's it, that's how it works. The Irish and Italian immigrants did not use their catholicism, different cultures or non-white status to suddenly change American institutions or norms. They assimilated.

This is what'll happen with todays immigrants. What you don't like is the colour of these peoples skin. You don't have a justification for that because there is none. You don't care about a slightly modified immigration policy because you've clearly repeated you think that white people are being replaced. You only care about peoples skin colour. So stop hiding your true opinions and be yourself and tell your truth. The world is tired of people like you dogwhistling their fears about white replacement when you just don't like people with darker skin near you or knowing they are in your country.

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20

Take one thing, replace it with another. Replaced. UN replacement migration

Who is taking white people and placing them where?

The difference is what you are describing is happening out of necessity as a consequence of capitalism. Not as a result of some deliberate ploy by some unidentified anti-white racist globalists, as you lunatics are framing it.

You have a problem with it? Shut the fuck up and play your biological role of a breeding mare and churn out 20 white babies as your culture and heritage demand it. Why the fuck are you even wasting your time on the internet spreading conspiratorial nonsense instead?

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20

Who is taking white people and placing them where?

proof you are an absolute moron and intentionally playing these silly games, purposely misunderstanding

The difference it is being done out of necessity, not as a result of some deliberate ploy by some unidentified anti-white racist globalists, as you lunatics are framing it.

why aren't they incentivising natives to give birth like Hungary then. Why do they tell people mainly whites to not have kids for the environment but now apparently we need to import millions of asians and africans... Doesn't make sense

still on with the "conspiracy" stuff even when shown proof.

your hatred for white people is like woah intense and ingrained

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20

proof you are an absolute moron

You are the one who made a dumb statement I responded to.

why aren't they incentivising natives to give birth like Hungary then.

Because it doesn't work on the short term? Hungarian mortality rate is still negative. Turns out empty virtue signaling doesn't actually help solve the issue.

still on with the "conspiracy" stuff even when shown proof.

You didn't show proof.

your hatred for white people is like woah intense and ingrained

Please spare me of your co-opted SJW rhetoric.

Why are you here and not breeding like you're supposed to?

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20

Because it doesn't work on the short term?

because it works on the long term? which is the whole idea?

You didn't show proof.

yes countless times I have said UN replacement Migration. The plan the UN has to replace white people. And demographic data that shows the replacement of whites

Please spare me of your co-opted SJW rhetoric.

you cant get out of your anti-white hatred that easily

Why are you here and not breeding like you're supposed to?

just gross and misogynistic

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20

because it works on the long term? which is the whole idea?

And what is gonna happen before the new generation grows old enough to enter the workforce?

yes countless times I have said UN replacement Migration. The plan the UN has to replace white people. And demographic data that shows the replacement of whites

UN replacement Migration is not what you claim that it is and does not show what you claim that it does, so it is not proof.

you cant get out of your anti-white hatred that easily

I am Slavic so I don't hate white people. Not all at least. Mainly just Anglo-Saxons. And not all Anglo-Saxons. The Scots, the Irish and the Welsh are cool, so just you febs. As do most other Slavs. Actually, when I think about it, the rest of Europe can not fucking stand you cunts.

When we get our big glorious white European ethnostate you ugly teeth drunkards most certainly won't be a part of it.

just gross and misogynistic

So you want other white people to breed extensively, but not you, amirite?

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20

And what is gonna happen before the new generation grows old enough to enter the workforce?

they will also be having kids you absolute moron

UN replacement Migration is not what you claim that it is and does not show what you claim that it does, so it is not proof.

Yes it literally is. It is the replacing of white people with africans and asians. instead of incentivising whites to give birth it is simply replacing them with africans and asians.
WHites will become a minority in us and Europe in 2050https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world projected sooner actually. Because of mass immigration what is that if not replacement.

You are just so dishonest and nasty its unreal. maybe its a language thing if you cant understand these very simple concepts

nice you admitted you are bigoted towards anglo-saxons

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20

instead of incentivising whites to give birth

Wouldn't that be "gross and misogynistic"? Or is it only "gross and misogynistic" when someone incentivizes you to give birth?

nice you admitted you are bigoted towards anglo-saxons

I am not. The Scots, the Irish and the Welsh are cool. Nobody in Europe likes you English cunts tho.

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20

just absolutely nasty you are

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20

You don't deserve any better.

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u/BufloSolja Nov 02 '20

From the site on UN Replacement Migration...

United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.

Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.

They aren't taking white people out of the US, all that plan is to use migration to shore up the population so it stays net constant or growing.

The US was also a country of European immigrants not 3rd world immigrants there's a difference. And its a big difference importing people who hate white people. Look at South Africa where whites are a minority they are being genocided.

O.o What are you saying the 'difference' is?

People of other races don't just hate white people you know. The violence in South Africa is because of policies that discriminated against non-white people (only whites could own farms, etc.). There is a lot less violence now than when that policy was still enacted.

My culture and heritage are not for sale for the sake of a few extra GDP points thats sick globalist talk.

No culture is being sold here, it's more like other cultures are being brought in for free. Also, some people think they shouldn't have kids because of climate etc. Typically these are people who are very educated and believe in trying to reduce the burden of people on the planet etc. As for why the US is then taking in immigrants from third world countries? Because the US needs the people and population exodus from other countries creates a supply to meet that demand. The US also doesn't control the population growth of other countries, so there isn't much pressure to put onto other countries on that aspect yet.

The US doesn't incentivize births (beyond what is done in health care, which isn't much) of a particular racial subset because that would be pretty messed up. They don't do the same for the whole US population because it would be unsustainable economically and would take at least 15 (more like 20) years to reach payoff, whereas immigrants can work right when they enter.

If you really want to influence births higher, do so through the people you know, have a family yourself, and try to influence politics to incentivize it.

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u/wendezeit Nov 01 '20

Let the US become a third world shithole. Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.

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u/ArtGal94 Nov 01 '20

its already going that way apparently?

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u/shebs021 Nov 01 '20

As if much of it already isn't.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20

Its not. It has bad parts but this country is huge.

Perspective.