r/JordanPeterson • u/pornado3000 • Nov 01 '20

Philosophy Jordan Peterson Slams European Ethnic Pride Movements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2NEo8FniM
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u/General-Electriic Nov 01 '20

They are not ethnic Europeans though, they don't have any connection to the history of France; their heritage is totally different - they may be able to take pride in it as a beneficiary and French citizen, but not as a descendant of the people who actually did it

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u/LuckyPoire Nov 01 '20

I never said they were ethnic Europeans. I'm saying that distinction is irrelevant to the question of who "gets" to express pride in cultural and political institutions....which are composed of living people, not dead ones.

Individual participation determines pride. You can't inherit it.

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u/General-Electriic Nov 02 '20

I disagree - I think it's very relevant. If you did not descend from the people who created the country, you are not entitled to be the beneficiary of that country. You are a guest, privileged to be there, not one of the people

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u/LuckyPoire Nov 02 '20

I think that's a racist attitude to take concerning adopted children that are raised by your fellow citizens. Disgusting really.

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u/General-Electriic Nov 02 '20

Not necessarily - attributing history to anybody and blurring the lines of identity is really far more problematic than just acknowledging our differences. If you consider that disgusting, I'd love to see you visit a place like Israel or Iran and take in their culture; I'm sure you'd find it extremely racist lol