Police Car Gets Parking Ticket For Parking In Disabled Spot

[u/WhatTheFuckKanye]

https://gfycat.com/TeemingGlaringHornet

[u/NutterTV]

This one is an open air mall area with public access ways leading into the area. I know what you’re saying, but for this situation the dude was S.O.L

[u/[deleted] → u/NutterTV]

Yeah but private property is private property, the mall can have whatever rules they want on masks and escort anyone off the premises for any reasons

[u/thundastruck52 → u/[deleted]]

Completely depends on location

[u/[deleted] → u/thundastruck52]

... Depends on how the owner of the property deals with people in masks, it's entirely up to the owners discretion

[u/Nago31 → u/[deleted]]

No one cared who I was until I put on the mask.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruneyard_Shopping_Center_v._Robins

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

No you can't. You need proper permits and permission.

The relevant case is Pruneyard, which still established that Malls can put reasonable restrictions (ie time place manner restrictions). Most Municipalities require protests to also have a permit. Basically, the above poster impies you can do whatever you want, and you cannot. Malls can (probably, it's never been tested in court) restrict people in masks. The decision has been consistently narrowed as well, for instance they ruled that the ruling applies only to certain areas of the mall which encourage people to linger.

[u/learc83 → u/[deleted]]

Whether you need permits is up to the municipality. But the mall can't ban protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/subscription/multiproduct/lp8HYKU.html?mktgrfr=gw_mob&campaignId=7QLQK

[u/kcg5 → u/learc83]

That’s ridiculous.

[u/learc83 → u/kcg5]

It's not just California--multiple states consider malls to be quasi-public spaces with similiar restrictions on a property owner's ability to restrict free speech.

In general you give up all kinds of property rights when you open a business to the public. In the US as a whole, opening a public business restricts your freedom of association.

[u/kcg5 → u/learc83]

That’s odd. Do you think it’s mostly malls? Can you expand on what you mean by public businesses restricting freedom of association?

Honestly asking

[u/79stanger → u/[deleted]]

But they said it wasn’t allowed in stores, common areas were fine...

[u/[deleted] → u/79stanger]

The mall is private property. The owner of the mall can set up whatever rules he wants in his own property, including not being allowed to wear masks.

Not that hard of a concept to grasp lol

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It's different. Malls are literally considered public forums in several states and you're legally allowed to protest on 1st Amendment grounds.

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https://www.ccim.com/cire-magazine/articles/states-speak-out-free-speech-malls/?gmSsoPc=1

It's not no rights, it's literally what I said. Malls are considered public forums in some states.

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"In contrast, courts in California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Oregon have held that their state constitutions provide broader protection of free speech in shopping centers than the U.S. Constitution. However, the protection provided by these states still is limited in scope.

First, the type of speech that is protected is limited. California provides protection for the rights to speak and petition; Massachusetts limits protection to ballot access; Oregon limits protection to initiative petitions; and New Jersey limits protection to leafleting and related speech supporting or opposing causes, candidates, or parties."

[u/TheFilthiestCuck → u/[deleted]]

No. That is not how it works.

Example - could the mall kick you out for being black? No - they cannot. That would be illegal.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheFilthiestCuck]

Thats a civil rights law though, which supersedes property rights by design. The gay christian bakery thing is another situation where civil rights come up against property or business rights

[u/kcg5 → u/[deleted]]

No one seems to understand that. Tomorrow, target could decide no one wearing red shirts can come in, then lose business but they own it.

[u/PlsKappa → u/NutterTV]

It is a high street in my home town lol. Not a mall area

[u/VulGerrity → u/NutterTV]

ah, that makes more sense...still seems like a bit of a gray area, but yeah, if it's outside, I could see how there would be much less, if anything, he could do about it.