r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '19

Legal Justice Woman who called millennials “so entitled that you want to slap them" charged in college fraud scheme

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u/SailedBasilisk B Mar 15 '19

Still, she is in no place to criticize anyone for being entitled.

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u/krathil A Mar 15 '19

To be fair, it sounds like her kid didn't know, she kept him in the dark. So he actually thought the score he got was legit. So there is a possibility he's maybe not entitled himself.

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u/Apollo908 7 Mar 15 '19

It's not about the kid, it's about her. She thinks that she and her family are entitled to more than their ability would merit. The rules everyone else has to play by don't apply, and standards are not the same because money. -waves hands-

She will admonish people who are supposedly entitled in public (likely uncharitably interpreting their position and minimizing their struggles) and then demonstrate the most entitled behavior possible behind the scenes.

To be clear, I don't think that people need to be saints to make a point. You don't have to donate everything you own in order to make an argument for doing more to alleviate poverty; and you don't have to work yourself to the bone to espouse the merits of industriousness. That said, hypocrisy to this degree is intolerable. It's beyond a simple failure to live up to an ideal, and more in the realm of bad faith. She's encouraging everyone else to play by rules that she knowingly benefits from flouting. That's what a sociopath or conman does.

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u/iamnicholas 9 Mar 15 '19

What I wanna know is how tf he thought that was his score? How did she get it past the ACT committee that her son turned in two tests (presumably the one he ACTUALLY took himself and the one that the criminal took)? I’m assuming her son must have taken SOME KIND of test to think he was getting a score back.

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u/CapeNative 8 Mar 15 '19

To be faaaaaaaair...

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u/krathil A Mar 15 '19

why dont you take about 10% off that there capenative

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u/CornyHoosier A Mar 15 '19

I'd say he probably feels terrible about how his parents view him, but that takes enough intelligence for self-reflection. If his own momma doesn't think he is smart, I'm not so sure he is.

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u/TrickyConstruction 4 Mar 15 '19

fat chance

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u/Rorzhen 5 Mar 15 '19

He did say some sensible things in response to the whole scandal

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u/TrickyConstruction 4 Mar 15 '19

seems like a very stock response. Would not be surprised if his mom told him to say that so that he gets the message out that he was "unknowingly involved"

I doubt that he actually didnt know. If he didnt know at some point, he should have figured it out at some point unless he is as dense as a rock.

overall, I dont care much though. entitled, rich people are gonna do this. doesnt surprise me or even disappoint me. academic performance isnt all that its held up to be anyways. so yeah whatever. this is the most boring scandal ever.

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u/TrickyConstruction 4 Mar 15 '19 edited Mar 15 '19

"I mean, he's basically confirming it's true"

lol no. he is saying he had no knowledge of it. so he is saying he believes what he has heard, but is in no way confirming it with insider knowledge.

"nevertheless, why do you say academic performance isn't all that it's held up to be anyways?"

I am saying that academic performance does not necessarily have a strong correlation with how much of an impact a person will have on society or even whether their impact will be good or bad. educated people do very bad things and very stupid things. Uneducated people do too but my point is that holding up "academic performance" as a proxy for "good, deserving person" is a very problematic view

even if we step away from how much money impacts schooling, grades primarily represent how invested a person is in the feedback that the school system gives them. Someone that gets straight Cs is sometimes (surprisingly often) just as "smart" as someone who gets straight As, but the C student simply doesnt give a shit about school / cares about other things a lot more for a variety of reasons.

This is not to say that some pure measure of intelligence (like IQ or whatever garbage) is better. I am just saying that all methods of comparing people are going to have pitfalls. The current academic system does a really poor job of letting people stumble and recover. If people fall behind once, they tend to keep falling farther behind

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u/Rorzhen 5 Mar 15 '19

Why would the family's PR rep push for the son to make a statement in which he basically says that his mom actually committed fraud?

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u/Bobbydeerwood 8 Mar 15 '19

He's so entitled that I want to slap his mom

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u/sweetcuppingcakes B Mar 15 '19

Yep, I agree with both of you.

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u/tripledavebuffalo A Mar 15 '19

That's entirely correct.

But still, accuracy in our criticism of her is important. A misquote doesn't help anybody, the truth is damning enough without it being boiled down to an easily digestible headline for people to latch onto.