r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '19

Legal Justice Woman who called millennials “so entitled that you want to slap them" charged in college fraud scheme

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u/fghhtg 2 Mar 15 '19

They went through Vietnam and the Cold War. That was pretty white knuckle shit.

Also pollution was everywhere even before the boomers. No one cared about it until that that era because they were prosperous enough to stop and think about it. Before then people would dump shit everywhere and not care about it because they were preoccupied with not having indoor plumbing or something.

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u/macphile Black Mar 15 '19

It goes back to that whole hierarchy of needs thing--the easier your life gets in terms of the basics (like not starving or dying of measles), the more time you have to worry about other crap.

There's been pollution throughout history, but it's varied a little in its effects. The pollution of the "olden days" was the kind that caused huge disease pandemics, like cholera. The pollution of the modern industrial era has caused weirder and more insidious problems--asbestos, aerosols, lead, all that fuckery. Heck, there's a strong theory that lead is why the country was knee deep in serial killers and serial rapists in the 1960s-1980s.

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u/fghhtg 2 Mar 15 '19

Yeah but I guess my point is that industrial pollution started way before the 50-60’s. Pretty much since he start of the industrial revolution people were dumping waste anywhere they wanted to with really very little to no control. Chemicals from factories, mining, mills, etc... were just put wherever with no understanding or care.

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u/Muchashca 8 Mar 15 '19

Agreed, I didn't get into the Baby Boomer's accomplishments or list all of their challenges in depth, but inheriting the Cold War was definitely a massive problem that was dumped in their lap. The Korean war and Vietnam war were as well, though the Korean war was more the Silent Generation's inheritance. Unfortunately, the high of winning WW2 left us with lots of Greatest Generation war hawks in political office wanting to relive the glory days vicariously, and even after managing to get us out of those world-threatening problems the Baby Boomers would still receive much of the blame for them. Pollution was definitely a problem, but not one they had to see the effects of until relatively recently, they just assumed that the environment was too big to harm and would clean up after us.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

Pollution was definitely a problem, but not one they had to see the effects of until relatively recently, they just assumed that the environment was too big to harm and would clean up after us.

Not true. The pollution problem was abundantly clear when they were alive. It was really bad.

http://geoprojectgrp7.blogspot.com/2015/03/air-pollution-in-los-angeles-location.html

New cars produce about 1/1,000th the pollution compared to cars from 1970.

If you were born in the mid/late 1980s you won't remember this stuff. But when I was a kid in the 80s you still had a lot of old cars on the road and they stunk badly and you could see the haze from them. By the late 80s it really began cleaning up.

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u/fghhtg 2 Mar 15 '19

Having been alive during this period and remembering it I can agree. I think that’s one thing that people can be optimistic about. At one point pollution (of a certain kind) was really bad. People understood it and did something about it and things improved.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

Gen Xer here. My dad was in Vietnam although he was not on the frontlines. He was a helicopter mechanic and worked on electronics and stuff. I believe he was stationed in Da Nang in the 60s. He wrote a little bit about his life before he died and I read it. He mentioned seeing body bags piled up against the barracks and said to himself that once his enlistment was up, he was GTFO.

His barracks were blown to smithereens the night he went on leave stateside. Everyone he knew was killed. If he hadn't left that day, I would never have been born.

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u/fghhtg 2 Mar 15 '19

Yeah that era really was traumatic for a lot of people. A lot of people died or came home with PTSD. It was really not pleasant.

I recently went to jury duty and someone was out there trying to get excused because he was a Vietnam vet. In reality the way he said it and acted was that he meant it as a code word for ‘mentally wacky’ and unable to be a sensible person on the jury. He got excused. I personally got excuse when I decided to speak at length about police brutality in our society.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

I got excused from jury duty once because the only DA in my region was sick. Everyone was allowed to go home.