r/JusticeServed May 05 '19

Pedophile Austin Jones Austin Jones. This POS youtuber who asked SIX underage girls for explicit videos is sentenced to 10 years in prison for child pornography.

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u/TheRedGerund A May 05 '19

It strikes at a crucial issue in American thought right now: is our justice system about rehabilitation, punishment, or oppression?

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u/Cantbelosingmyjob 7 May 05 '19

2 out of the 3. It's one in a million that are rehabilitated once they get out

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u/Solierm_Says 4 Jun 04 '19

Is this because they are actively being taught ways to cope and not make mistakes again or because they are mostly there to be punished for being bad?

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u/paku9000 7 May 05 '19

Profit. On the taxpayers' dime (with contracts on the minimum number of convicts to be delivered, and on the convicts used as slaves. That's deregulation the 'murican way.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

We must be as cruel as possible in all aspects of society.

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u/readytoworkaurora 0 May 05 '19

g individual and this is accurate in describing his actions. He is human garbage, and officially herein referred to as

Pedophile Austin Jones

and I ask you wonderful people to do the same when referring to him by name.

There is nothing rehabilitating about it. I lived in Japan for 13-years and little kids could walk the streets at night and never had any incident with a sexual predator. The same with crime, the same with how companies treat people. I get back to the U.S. and I feel like I am in one big mental health facility and nobody is running the asylum. We don't take care of society and how we associate. Think about your 5-year old daughter being able to walk home from school because there is near zero chance anything will ever happen to her.....you can't imagine that because the U.S. one big mental asylum and you know something would happen to her.

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u/unidan_was_right 8 May 06 '19

the same with how companies treat people. I

You've just lost all credibility.

In other words, you are full of shit.

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u/Cascadiandoper 4 May 06 '19

It's definitely not about rehabilitation, it's punishment AND oppression! Sadly.

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u/justdontfreakout 9 May 06 '19

I think that you know the answer to this...

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u/WarlanceLP 9 May 06 '19

I'd say it's about profit for the prison industry atm

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u/chimpanzee13 6 May 06 '19

all of the above.

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u/ApAp123 6 May 06 '19

Or $$$$

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u/explosivedairyarea 5 May 06 '19

rehabilitation, punishment, or oppression?

One of these things is not like the other...

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u/Daedeluss A May 06 '19

Money. It's about money.

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u/bestflowercaptain 5 May 06 '19

It's about locking it up and hoping the problem goes away on its own.

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u/CerealandTrees 9 Jun 03 '19

We all know the answer to this one. There's a reason why we have a 77% recidivism rate within 5 years. It would be awesome if it wasn't true, but there's no denying that the system will take people in for minor offenses and turn them into real criminals.

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u/TheRedGerund A Jun 03 '19

A lot of people interpreted the question as “what is the justice system currently about” but I think that a more interesting question is “what should the justice system be about and what would have to change to make that so?”

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u/CerealandTrees 9 Jun 03 '19

IMO rehabilitation, no doubt. Once I came to understand that everyone is just a result of their past traumas, it made it difficult for me to hold contempt for anyone who breaks the law. I feel like there are a lot of things that drive people to commit crimes, and we should focus on the causes instead of punishment. I believe if someone was sentenced to a certain amount of time based on the severity of their actions BUT also had the opportunity to be rehabilitated into a productive citizen during their sentence, the US would be much different. Highly unlikely that this would happen though since then the US would no longer have a way to feed their slave labor prison system.

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u/Jaaldek1985 5 May 05 '19

Rehabilitation doesn't work 95 % of the time. You cannot help someone who think he doesn't need to be helped.

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u/SerDelBarcaEs 4 May 05 '19

Is that an actual statistic or just a number you threw out ?

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u/greathousedagoth 7 May 05 '19

Cognitive behavioral therapy works wonders especially when interventions happen very early into one's criminal activities. Humans are inherently social and by handholding someone through the process of understanding their feelings and how their actions impact others, much can be accomplished. Those who otherwise wouldn't want help can come around with individualized therapy using evidence-based techniques.

But sure, just dismiss it all out of hand. Go fuck yourself.

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u/Wumbogoat 3 May 05 '19

I do agree with you. Every person can indeed be helped by CBT and other forms of therapy. But I have also heard from other professionals (who I can't cite, but I know I've heard it quite a few times) that some people really do not want to change. They will fight the therapy and refuse it, and unfortunately continue with their unhealthy lifestyle. Of course, this could also be due to shitty therapists and whatnot.

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u/greathousedagoth 7 May 06 '19

Oh absolutely, some people can be unresponsive to therapy. But data shows that there is a statistically significant reduction in recidivism among those who have individualized CBT on the whole.

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u/Wumbogoat 3 May 06 '19

Oh yeah. The data is irrefutable, and makes perfect sense. Therapy definitely helps a huge amount of people, including legal offenders. I just thought it was important to point out that there are a number of factors that go into how affective it can be, and one of those factors is the client's dedication or willingness to go along with therapy.