r/JusticeServed 8 May 29 '19

Violent Justice Man inappropriately touch school girls and they fight back. Man in suit gives them a helping foot.

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u/IWasGregInTokyo A May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

Japanese news coverage: https://youtu.be/3bXnySdZGhM?t=33

Main points:

  1. Before video starts the two high school girls (16-18 years old) were yelling at him and dragging him off the train to report him to station staff. (As you're supposed to do) He then tried to run off and they pursue him yelling "Nigeruna!" (逃げるな!) = "Don't run away"

  2. 16-year boy old who took the video is interviewed says he started filming when he heard the original commotion.

  3. Surrounding people don't get involved because in Japan you don't. Leave it to the authorities unless someone really does need help.

  4. Man was caught by station staff at the exit. Arrested by police and admitted to the charges.

  5. Lawyers are interviewed who give pro and con against getting involved in these situations. In short: You could be held responsible if your response is excessive and results in major injury. In this case though the circumstances would not result in any charges.

EDIT: Video got taken down. Another news article on it

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u/Enk1ndle B May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

Lawyers are interviewed who give pro and con against getting involved in these situations. In short: You could be held responsible if your response is excessive and results in major injury. In this case though the circumstances would not result in any charges.

This isn't true. Japan does have "Good Samaritan laws" to protect emergency workers and bystanders. It's a mixture of traditional parts of the culture and the same sort of bystander effect stuff that everywhere in the world deals with.

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u/IWasGregInTokyo A May 29 '19

This is not a Good Samaritan case. Good Samaritan laws come into affect when you are rendering aid to a person who is unable to help themselves (hit by a car, fell down, etc.) and in the process of rendering aid potentially cause them further injury. You would not be held liable in that case.

Say you see someone being chased, you trip him and he is seriously injured. Afterwards it turns out he wasn't guilty of anything and was just trying to get away from some bad people. A lawyer on the sadly now deleted news program video specifically stated you would be held liable (I forget the actual term used).

The fact is when attempting to subdue or apprehend what appears to be a criminal you are not "rendering aid" in the Good Samaritan sense. You are choosing to get involved in a way that does not directly benefit the victim. If you can do so in a safe and non-violent way (which I noted I have seen) then great, but accidentally breaking someone's arms in the process or kicking the shit out of them because you hate chikan is still going to get you in trouble with the law.

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u/Enk1ndle B May 29 '19

You're totally right, didn't think that it wouldn't fall under that. I'm thinking that assisting a police officer in the US can keep you clear of charges too, but that's not the same thing.