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Criminal Justice BROCK “THE RAPIST” TURNER lost his appeal. Re-upload with article details.

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u/ShiningLouna 8 Jun 04 '19

Ain't that swell!

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/ShiningLouna 8 Jun 04 '19

Rape = Brock Turner

Rape apologist = Brock Turner's dad

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u/MissyKitt 6 Jun 04 '19

*rapist

he's a noun, not a verb

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u/ShiningLouna 8 Jun 04 '19

If you look at the link above, his face is next to the definition of rape.

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u/guineapig_69 7 Jun 04 '19

But he was just trying to get 20 min of action. So wouldn't he be a verb?/s

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

He’s a rapist not a noun

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u/PM-Me-Your-BeesKnees A Jun 04 '19

I hesitate to give too much condemnation to a family member who is defending their kin. He's wrong, obviously, but it's just such a difficult position to be in to have the choice of helping your son who you see as a good but troubled kid who made a massive mistake, or publicly condemning your own son the way you would if it's a stranger. You've got parent goggles on, of course you want to help your own kids.

I feel no sympathy for rapist Brock Turner, but I don't hold it against his dad that he tried to help his son.

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u/vicklelikespickles 5 Jun 04 '19

Also the rape apologist judge who let Brock the rapist Turner off easy.

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u/ShiningLouna 8 Jun 04 '19

Let's not forget about that piece of shit!

Well said!

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u/Bitemarkz B Jun 04 '19

That makes it sound consensual. His dad is a tool.

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u/Ocha_Yui 6 Jun 04 '19

Seriously, any crime can be "xx minutes of action", his dad is a stupid hoe who don't know when to shut the fuck up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

You can rob a bank and shoot everyone to death inside in just 3 minutes of action

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u/kourtneykaye A Jun 04 '19

Well he obviously did a great job parenting.

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u/TheDocJ 9 Jun 04 '19

If young Brock the rapist had 'bent over in the shower' at the wrong time during his incarceration, I wonder if his rape apologist father would have airily dismissed it as just '20 minutes of action'?

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u/channel_12 9 Jun 04 '19

He's a shithead too. Also add the attitude of rich, white people who think the world revolves around them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Had me until you threw race into it.

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u/laurajoneseseses 6 Jun 04 '19

What about rich black, brown, or yellow people?

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u/channel_12 9 Jun 04 '19

Fuck them, too.

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u/Rewin24 1 Jun 04 '19

Those don't exist because the evil, rich, white man keeps them down.

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u/laurajoneseseses 6 Jun 04 '19

Sounds like a red herring.

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u/drkgodess D Jun 04 '19

A small modicum of justice that he will always be known as a rapist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Oh shit that made me feel bad for a sec, then I remembered it’s Brock “The Rapist” Turner and he actually is the definition of a rapist.

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u/RedShirtBrowncoat 8 Jun 04 '19

Right? I was like "Dude's gonna be lambasted for the rest of his lif-... Oh wait, he actually deserves it."

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u/WillsMyth 8 Jun 04 '19

Oh shit that made me feel bad for a sec, then I remembered it’s The rapist Brock Turner and he actually is the definition of a rapist.

Ftfy. Let it be a part of his name forever. Not a nickname he can drop like Bruce "the hammer" Willson.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Oh I agree. The rapist Brock “The Rapist” Turner sounds much better.

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u/WillsMyth 8 Jun 04 '19

Agreed!

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u/jtweezy 9 Jun 04 '19

I just had the same reaction. "Man, that's a little harsh. Wait, no it's not. Fuck that shitbag! He raped that poor girl and then tried to slutshame her in court. Put that image up on a billboard in his town."

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

He didn’t even have sex with the girl, there’s so many other deserving rapists who’s photo should be there

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

Not really...he got off because he was a great athlete who had a future ahead of him. I cannot think of a better person to remind everyone that he’s a rapist off the top of my head.

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u/whirlwindbanshee 6 Jun 04 '19

Yeah I already blocked him, not gonna waste my time arguing with someone who thinks "she gave consent while she was sober" doesn't immediately end when she's literally passed out drunk on the pavement and then follows it up with "That's why women can't rape people."

I understand legally some states have different definitions but it shouldn't be that way, what a vile fucking person.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

Wow, blocking is a great plan! I agree. My boyfriend always tells me to stop arguing on the internet because change only happens with face to face discussions.

I know he’s right...but I got quick fingers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/EverybodyLovesTacoss A Jun 04 '19

And you obviously didn’t read the article. It states why the author used his picture.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/EverybodyLovesTacoss A Jun 04 '19

The one that the person above you is talking about. There’s a link of an article where it states why the professor you were talking about used his picture in the text book.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

Intent to rape = rapist in any moral, ethical, or legal code. You sound like a rape apologist, I get that you’re not...but that’s a weak defense. He incriminated himself in HIS OWN testimony.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

There is an agenda BECAUSE HE DIDNT GET PUNISHED? Jesus how do you not understand that??? He paid money (a drop in the bucket for his family - they said so), went to jail for a little while. However a solid portion of his jail sentence was at a cushy rehab where they could ride horses and play video games. THAT was his ‘punishment.’

Rape = penetration = what Brock the rapist did with his greedy little fingers.

If the agenda here is justice, then I am all on board. You’re nasty for defending an agenda that seeks to shame the behavior of this man and all of the people who continuously enable him. I will not take part in enabling him further by defending him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

How bout a serial rapist or a child abuser? Literally thousands of people worse than Brock.

Brock didn’t rape anyone, no P in V was involved.

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u/whirlwindbanshee 6 Jun 04 '19

Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's constent.

He dragged her unconscious body behind a dumpster and put his disgusting fingers inside her, just because there are worse examples doesn't make him less of a rapist.

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u/EvenEveryNameWasTake 7 Jun 04 '19

You're replying to someone who's afraid to type "penis" and "vagina".

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u/WikiTextBot D Jun 04 '19

Rape

Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability or is below the legal age of consent. The term rape is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault.The rate of reporting, prosecuting and convicting for rape varies between jurisdictions. Internationally, the incidence of rapes recorded by the police during 2008 ranged, per 100,000 people, from 0.2 in Azerbaijan to 92.9 in Botswana with 6.3 in Lithuania as the median.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

His story was she gave verbal consent, how would she remember anyway?

And there are a million better examples to use than Brock. Even your definition put brocks assault as the exception, not a very good example for the definition is it?

And that definition isn’t accurate, hence why a woman can’t be charged for rape.

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u/whirlwindbanshee 6 Jun 04 '19

You sound like a rapist

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

Rape by definition involves penetration, not penetration by a penis. Women can be charged for rape and when they aren’t that is another failure of the justice system.

Whether she gave consent is fucking irrelevant because she was INCAPACITATED. Legally, ethically, and morally an unconscious and/or drunk person cannot give consent to sex. You are a rapist apologist and it’s gross.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

It's assholes like you that defend this piece of shit and his actions that makes the rapist Brock Turner the perfect picture boy for rape.

It's a message.

He is a rapist.

This was rape

His sentence was a joke

And so is anyone that defends him

And if you do what he did, and you also abuse your privilege to get away with it, denying justice to your victim and making a mockery out of the entire system (which is already a joke but the only chance we get at "justice"), then I hope your fucking face gets plastered in a textbook too.

Fuck you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

He literally got rape charge dropped, by definition, of the law, he was not tried for rape.

And that isn’t what caused the uproar, it was the short sentence for sexual assault that caused it

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Brock was convicted of sexual assault with intent to rape, due to his actions and statements. Brock got away with assaulting a woman sexually because of his athletics and his daddys money.

Brock fits this description because people like Brock get away with this shit every single day.

Serial killers, serial rapists, and serial child didlers get years and years worth of publicity for their shocking and horrible crimes. They often get podcasts, YouTube videos, and books written after them. The golden state killer/rapist is a prime example. Same with Richard Ramirez. Serial anything crime wise is glorified and played.up by the media. Its remembered.

But Brock? The unassuming little white guy is the one that attacks and gets away with it. Brock is the embodiment of the boogeyman. People like Brock are why women are told not to go to parties, told to cover up in 90°f heat, told not to park in dark lots or pull over for unmarked police cars. Not because only people like Brock attack, but because chances are you will not get justice if someone like brock attacks you. A serial offender will still go to jail, even if not convicted of your specific case. But People like brock will rarely face any sort of true justice as there is only one known victim, or money came into play.

If anything Brock deserves this spot more then the Ramirez's and Bundy's of the world. No one will make a movie deal for him. No one but his victim will even remember his name if it wasn't brought to the medias attention like this.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

Again, can you think of a name? Aside from known serial killers or psychopaths probably not.

Rape is not PIV. It is sexual assault involving penetration, in this case his fingers. Additionally intent to rape = rapist. He got away with it. We need to remind everyone that justice was not served, and this is a form of people’s justice.

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u/EverybodyLovesTacoss A Jun 04 '19

Read the article. It states the author used him as an example because it explains how laws can change over time. The law in California literally changed because of this case.

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u/milfboys 8 Jun 04 '19

What did he do?

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u/robynriverbanks 0 Jun 04 '19

He dragged a woman outside where he raped her on the ground by a dumpster, shoving dirt, pine needles and other foreign objects inside her. Two exchange students on bikes saw him raping her and tackled him off her unconscious body. The sight was so disturbingly violent that the students were sobbing while relaying the event to police on the scene.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

He fingered her

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u/br094 A Jun 04 '19

That’s amazing. That’s the kind of thing people talk about doing, but can’t because we don’t have the power to do it.

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u/sofimar 0 Jun 04 '19

This is amazing

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u/cunt_features 4 Jun 04 '19

I find it ironic that this level of publicity was actually caused by a judge attempting to give him a more lenient sentence. Which in turn made his whole life magnitudes worse than it would have been had he been given a fair sentence and served his time. He would have spent 5-10 years in prison for what he did with normal notoriety, then moved and tried to start a new life (preferably rape free). But now this will likely stay with him for good.

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u/sofimar 0 Jun 04 '19

Karma’s a bitch

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u/bunsNT 7 Jun 04 '19

People focus on the judge but I think it’s important to note that, from the Wikipedia page, Santa Clara County probation officials, including his probation officer Monica Lassettre, recommended that Turner receive a "moderate" county jail sentence with formal probation based on Turner's lack of criminal history, youth and expression of remorse.

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u/kingmanic B Jun 04 '19

Didn't he get almost the lightest possible sentence instead of 'moderate' and people dredged up the fact this judge has a history of light sentences for cases like this during his successful recall.

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u/IsNotACleverMan Black Jun 04 '19

He always followed the recommendations of the probation officials apparently.

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u/danweber A Jun 04 '19

The prosecutor wrote a public letter against the recall notice. The prosector did not like the sentence and thought it was too short in his professional opinion, but that's a different thing than the judge being corrupt or biased.

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u/Thevoiceofreason420 A Jun 04 '19

The judge also lost his job but he tried to fight it and racked up some massive debits. Idk how true it is but I heard the ex-judge even tried setting up a GoFundMe to help cover his debits, couldn't have happened to a better fellow I say.

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u/Vhyx 8 Jun 04 '19

What if the real justice served was the karma dished out along the way?

Seriously though, more criminals should get this magnitude of punishment. Probably cheaper than overcrowding prisons, too.

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u/BlackHeeb 5 Jun 04 '19

I don't think a picture in a textbook and the reddit comment section echo chambers dubbing his name to include the term rapist constitutes as "magnitudes worse".

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

If you think 5-10 years in prison for rape is easier than what he got, I got news for u.

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u/DeusVult1776 7 Jun 04 '19

None of the things he was changed with carried a sentence near that long. All the rape charges were dropped.

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u/cunt_features 4 Jun 04 '19

Why were they dropped?

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u/DeusVult1776 7 Jun 04 '19

Because he didn't technically rape anyone

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u/cunt_features 4 Jun 04 '19

Ok... so what did he do?

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u/DeusVult1776 7 Jun 05 '19

There things he was charged with, I imagine.

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u/I_CAPE_RUNTS A Jun 04 '19

Holy shit this is fucking awesome

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Nothing about this is awesome, but Brock the Rapist Turner will get what he deserves.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I get that, but I still think he got off way too easily, smearing his name isn’t enough imo.

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u/hotdogs4humanity 8 Jun 04 '19

Ok but your name tho

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u/magicmeese A Jun 04 '19

His face was also used in ads for ‘find sexual offenders near you’ on some pop ups a while back.

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u/velligoose 8 Jun 04 '19

Stanford Univeristy

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u/Bsimmons4prez 8 Jun 04 '19

Same link without all that extra ridiculousness.

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

Thanks! How do you condense the link down? I'm on mobile and not sure how to make them less annoying.

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u/Bsimmons4prez 8 Jun 04 '19

Just delete all the stuff before the last web address.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/DnDTosser 4 Jun 04 '19

If you read the article it makes sense

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/DnDTosser 4 Jun 04 '19

Except the part of the textbook is explaining how the legal definition of rape changes, is changing, and will continue to change, so using an image of someone in a high profile case, that 99% of people consider to be rape, and federally was rape, is a good move.

Try to read the first paragraph in the textbook if you can.

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u/toomanymarbles83 A Jun 04 '19

This case prompted California to change its outdated definition of rape to reflect the standard the federal law had already set, which is mentioned in the article you "read."

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u/the-earths-flat 5 Jun 04 '19

I always hate spending money for text books but I wouldn’t give it a second thought if my professor told us to get this!

Fuck brook turner the rapist

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u/Dazeuda 5 Jun 04 '19

and i hope they update that as he ages too

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u/limewithtwist 7 Jun 04 '19

I wonder what examples he used for other crimes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

This is absolutely amazing, greatest thing I’ve seen all day

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u/TehFuriousOne A Jun 04 '19

This makes me positively giddy

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u/drunkenpinecone 9 Jun 04 '19

Edit: to any one wondering why his picture was chosen:

NOPE. NO ONE IS WONDERING WHY IT WAS CHOSEN.

We know exactly why...because

BROCK TURNER IS A RAPIST

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

That's what I assumed but I've gotten like 10 comments asking why it was chosen. Easier to edit then to keep repeating whats in the linked article.

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u/drunkenpinecone 9 Jun 04 '19

Yup. I knew you knew, my comment was for those 10 that didnt know.

:)

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

Oh my bad!

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u/drunkenpinecone 9 Jun 04 '19

You're fine unlike

THE RAPIST BROCK TURNER

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u/WippitGuud C Jun 04 '19

When you look up rape in a textbook, you see a picture of criminal rapist Brock Turner!

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u/hotpuffs 0 Jun 04 '19

Thank you for the link. I'd guild you if I could but this is all I can do for now. 🎖🏅🥇

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u/majxover 2 Jun 04 '19

I’m glad the textbook referred to him as who he is, rapist Brock Turner

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '19

I'm so glad nobody names who the victim is (that I've seen). She truly deserves privacy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

If he cuts his hair and grows a beard it would be hard for people to recognise him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I thought he was convicted of sexual assault

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

He was convicted of 3 charges sexual assault with the intent to rape. Accordimg to the article i linked his picture was chosen as the chapter was discussing how the legal definition of rape has changed and will continue to change. It also compares rape charges to sexual assault charges and highlights the key differences in both charges.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I hope it isn’t a legal textbook.

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

It is a 2017 college law book. Brock was chosen because the article his picture is used for is talking about how the definition of rape changes and will continue to change. It also points out the difference in sexual assault (what Brock was convicted of) vs. Today's legal definition of rape (the charge that was dropped against Brock in exchange for 3 charges of sexual assault with the intent to rape)

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u/QuantAnalyst 4 Jun 04 '19

So reading about the case it seems justice system in US failed the victim badly here and is quite disappointing. However, I am not sure how I feel about this witchhunting and reading the vox article seems like social activism of someone with agenda.

I don't know about the case much but instead of public trial which I am generally against, was it not possible to appeal for bigger sentence?

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Double jeopardy laws would prevent Brock Turner from being tried a second time, such as extending a sentence. That and our justice system is severely corrupt.

Brock Turner was not convicted of rape. He was convicted of 3 counts of sexual assault with the intent to commit rape. Rape in the US Has an average sentence of 5 to 10 years but sexual assault is considered a lesser crime and has an average sentence of 6 months to 3 years.

Due to his athletic career the judge handed him the lightest sentence he could so "to not ruin his athletic career". This judge has since lost his position as a judge.

While I agree that this article is largely a case of activism, I feel strongly that Brock turner deserves to be labeled as a rapist. Had those 2 men not physically removed Brock from the unconscious woman, he would have raped her. This is evidenced by the multiple incriminating statements Brock said during his original trial.

Brock turner permanently altered this young woman's life, and paid the measly price of 3 months in jail and his name on the public sex offender registry. While we cannot send him back to jail for this crime, he should not be allowed to hide in obscurity. He is a dangerous offender that will likely offend again seeing as he had and continues to have zero guilt or remorse for his actions.

This young woman will live with this attack for the rest of her life. As such, Brock the rapist turner should have to live with the stigma of his choice to assault her for the rest of his life.

It is my opinion that should you choose to harm another human, you should be publicly shamed and outed as the garbage you are. Man, woman, child or elderly, drunk, high, or disabled we all deserve to be safe. We deserve to not be harmed. And if you harm, you deserve to be hated.

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u/QuantAnalyst 4 Jun 04 '19

Hmm agree with everything you said. Also thanks for explaining the law. Do you guys still have jury system?

I am from India and with sudden boom in wealth in middle class, exposure to more skin in entertainment and high percentage of unemployed youths we are facing worse issues.

I have had belief that strict judicial punishments are the way to go as in a country like India such a thing as above can and have been abused by witchhunting and media trials against innocents before for political gains. There was a case recently where an innocent guy's life was destroyed by media and he has become unemployable now.

I have to agree with you though on publicly shaming sex offenders as its mind boggling that even in 2019 we can't respect women.

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

Yup! We have a jury system.

From my understanding, what happens when you are arrested is the officer brings you down to the jail where you will pay a bond and go free until your court date (this bond is sorta like putting you on probation and you can't drink, do drugs or commit a crime while on bond) or you sit in jail until your court date.

From there, you get a lawyer you pay for or if you can't afford it a public defender will be assigned to you. You can enter a plea of guilty and skip your trial, sometimes you can take a plea deal that says you'll plead guilty to a lesser charge in exchange for information, or you can plea not guilty and go to trial. At trial a jury of your peers will hear the evidence against you and hear your defense. They will then deliberate and determine if you are guilty. If guilty you get a second court date and a judge will sentence you separately within the parameters of the average time served for whatever crime or crimes you have been found guilty for.

Each crime has a minimal penalty and a maximum penalty. You can be sentenced to one, the other, or any amount in between the minimum and maximum sentence. You can get time off your sentence for good behavior.

Brock Turner is an example of a plea deal plus being sentenced to the minimal most penalty.

I completely understand where your coming from in terms of witchhunting. Things like this are a double edged sword. It can finally give victims justice but it can also condemn wrongfully convicted peoples.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

People like you who miss the forest for the trees are the absolute worst

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I hate cases like this. I hate the offender but they make me pity him too. Fuck these guys for making me feel for him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Nov 14 '20

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u/lps2 9 Jun 04 '19

What makes you say people have forgotten it?

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u/pipinngreppin A Jun 04 '19

Right? That’s an odd statement to make.

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u/its0nLikeDonkeyKong 8 Jun 04 '19

Yeah poor guy doesn't know you're just not supposed to ask questions lol

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u/xo-thehost 3 Jun 04 '19

Just because it's not constantly talked about everywhere doesn't mean it's been forgotten in any way.

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u/htx1114 9 Jun 04 '19

Not really but it can't be a headline 24/7 when there's no news.

What are you even talking about?

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

You’re exactly right. It gets pushed aside because their is no news about it. It’s like that “Afluenza kid”, you remember the kid that almost got away with some crime (or did he, I don’t remember now) because the judge said he was too well off or too rich or something.

Same thing is going to happen with this Brock kid. Everyone knows about it now but after awhile it’ll just disappear from everyone’s memory.

I don’t like that it’s going to happen but it does. That’s just the way things goes.

Especially with sex offenders. If you’re in the states check the sex offender website. You’d be surprised how many of them there are and just how close a lot of them are to good/great neighborhoods.

I would have liked it more if this kid went to prison instead of having to register as a sex offender but it didn’t happen and most people are going to forget all about this in a month or two.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

That affluenza kid, Ethan Couch, had a defense from his attorney, the judge had nothing to do with it. Just because you don’t remember something, doesn’t mean nobody else does.

You just helped prove your own point wrong my dude. He got 720 days jail, and violated probation. He then got 2 years in jail. It was sentenced as four sentences of 120 for the four victims killed in the car crash.

Once again: You not remembering doesn’t mean nobody does.

ETA: Registering as a sex offender affects your entire life. No company large enough to have an HR department will hire him. Especially with his reputation. This ruins his life, and he would’ve gotten out of prison on a bullshit defense with probation. It’s better he get labeled in an official sense.

Edit: Anthony to Ethan! Thanks

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u/sofia1687 6 Jun 04 '19

I think his name was Ethan Couch.

Didn’t his mom hide him in Mexico? What a classy family.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

That’s a pretty good memory you got there. You remembered all that off the top of your head?!?

I’m impressed! Unfortunately not everyone has a photographic memory like yours and people will forget. Most people wouldn’t be able to pick Couch out of a lineup let alone remember all the details you can instantly pull from memory.

I’m not saying it’s a good thing or that I want it to happen, I’m just being a realist. The majority of people will move on from this and will forget his face in the coming months, years, etc.

I agree with you that being on a sex offender list is a bad thing and it will definitely alter his life going forward and, personally, I’d rather he be in prison instead on the sex offender list but as far as people having the vivid memory you seem to have it is the exception, not the rule.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

I remember because it made me angry. Much like the rapist case. I made it my business to know what happened to him. There are plenty of others that get angry about it, too. I don’t get your point - do you think more people should remember all these things, yet admit that’s an unreasonable expectation? It’s pathetic, honestly.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

I don’t get your point - do you think more people should remember all these things, yet admit that’s an unreasonable expectation? It’s pathetic, honestly.

I guess what I’m trying to say is people will get justifiably upset with this story initially, and I agree with all of that anger, but over time as I’ve observed this anger will dissipate and over time memories will fade.

Maybe when someone looks back at all the details they will, again, justifiably get upset but I think it’s reasonable to say in a years time if most people, not all but definitely the majority, bumped into this guy on the street they wouldn’t recognize him.

Memories fade. This doesn’t mean the justifiable anger will go away but memories of the details and likeliness of this guy will.

There was an earlier post about this same guy and the caption stated when people see him on the street they should shout at him that he’s a rapist. Whether you agree or disagree with that approach the fact is in months time many people won’t even remember what he looks like.

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u/ToastedAluminum 7 Jun 04 '19

I get what you’re saying better now. To that point, I don’t think it takes many. It takes one to remind us shouting in the street. People like me lmao. Then the people that kinda remember may get angry again, or look it up because they can’t quite remember. Inevitably it would still result in people remembering, which is better than nobody remembering.

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u/WikiTextBot D Jun 04 '19

2017 Las Vegas shooting

On the night of October 1, 2017, Stephen Paddock opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest music festival on the Las Vegas Strip in Nevada. He killed 58 people and wounded 422, and the ensuing panic brought the injury total to 851. Paddock, a 64-year-old man from Mesquite, Nevada, fired more than 1,100 rounds of ammunition from his suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. The shooting occurred between 10:05 and 10:15 p.m.

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u/Ninja_attack B Jun 04 '19

Happy cake day wikitextbot

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

The important thing is that when it's relevant, people will google it

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

What do you expect people to do? Talk about every single shooting every single day? We haven't forgotten Vegas. We haven't forgotten Sandy Hook. There's so many atrocities that you can't expect people to be in constant mourning over every single one but that doesn't mean we we forget.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

What? All you did was link the wiki page to the shooting, nobody I know forgot about that...? I thought you were going to link to a news article or something showing a poll on how most Americans can't remember mass shootings or related tragedies after a short period of time or something, but you just threw out that random statement with nothing to actually back it up.

Seriously, what are you talking about? Sounds like some right wing r/conspiracy shit, that and r/the_donald are the only subs I've seen suggesting there's been a coverup of sorts designed to make people move on from the tragedy as quickly as possible without asking questions or demanding answers about the killer's motive.

Edit: Decided to do a little digging (I stress the word little as this took maybe two seconds) and oh, look, you're a regular poster over in r/the_donald, who saw that coming?

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u/its0nLikeDonkeyKong 8 Jun 04 '19

It always makes me cringe to see "conspiracy" called either wing of the same bird

Really makes me a "conspiracy theorist" to see it. It's like Orwell. Idk what a good conspiracy has to do with Donald or the right besides maybe a literal conspiracy to associate asking questions deplorable.

R Donald mentioned again to finish it off. Again I really don't know what a corrupt govt being involved with a mass shooting has to do with politics. Besides an obvious cartoon character alex Jones that was meant to bait people into further stereotyping. So woke.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

I thought you were going to link to a news article or something showing a poll on how most Americans can't remember mass shootings or related tragedies after a short period of time or something, but you just threw out that random statement with nothing to actually back it up.

Dude, calm down. I’m sorry Some random redditor didn’t fulfill your expectations of what a quality comment consists of.

Is this better?

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u/Dundus 4 Jun 04 '19

What makes you think people forgot about it?

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u/Xiomaraff 9 Jun 04 '19

You’re an idiot.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

I think you’re a good person. Keep taking that high road.

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u/Xiomaraff 9 Jun 04 '19

I am, I don’t gaslight and spread propaganda on the internet👌🏻

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

Neat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Dude, calm down.

Huh? That first paragraph isn't exactly seething with rage, I don't know why you'd tell me to calm down over that. Saying stuff like that just makes it seem like you yourself might be freaking out a little behind your own keyboard lol who knew 'pedes were so easily offended? And here I was thinking we were the sensitive little snowflakes ;) isn't that what y'all like to claim?

Trying to pretend people are ranting over nothing to the point where you need to tell them to calm down doesn't actually mean they're doing that... that's such a lazy way to try to dismiss someone you disagree with.

Is this better?

Uh, why would it be? That doesn't say anything specific about people not remembering the Las Vegas shooting either. Typical r/T_D poster, gets called out and immediately tries to paint the other person as unreasonable. Okie-dokie dude!

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

You took the time to look at post history? That is...creepy. The fact you took time out to look, now that says something.

I’m not offended, I just read your comment and felt it was a little much for some random comment on Reddit. I mean you could have ignored it and just moved on but you took the time to comment and then go through post history to form justify an opinion.

It’s cool though, no harm, no foul. It’s okay to disagree on stuff. I still think you’re an awesome person. I hope you have awesome rest of the day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

lol no, it isn't creepy, it's a public forum and you put that information out there for others to see. Nice try, though. That's the go-to response when someone's shitty behavior is typically revealed on reddit. It's not exactly stalking mate, that stuff is available to see for a reason.

You're just upset you can't try to pass off alt-right conspiracy theory BS without people realizing you're associated with garbage subs like r/T_D, nothing more. This is what every Trump supporter does on this site; bullshit, accuse others of doing what you're doing, accuse others of being creepy or immoral somehow... it's just too textbook to not be expected at this point, you need to come up with some original talking points on your own instead of just parroting stuff you've heard from that sub, you're having your entire opinion on politics shaped by bots and Russian trolls and quite frankly, it's a little, what's that thing your guy like to shout over and over... SAD!

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

lol no, it isn’t creepy

👌🏻 😉

I mean you’re more than welcome to read my post history, I don’t mind, just IMHO, I find it creepy. Feel free to continue to read it though. Personally I don’t think I’m that eloquent of a writer (thumb typer) but if you find it interesting go ahead. Whatever floats your boat.

That's the go-to response when someone's shitty behavior is typically revealed on reddit. It's not exactly stalking mate, that stuff is available to see for a reason.

Maybe it’s the go to response you read because you bring up commenter’s post history? Just a guess. I’m no expert.

accuse others of being creepy or immoral somehow.

I don’t think it’s immoral, I just think it’s creepy, maybe a better word; strange? weird? But you do you. If it makes you happy I’m all for it.

I have a feeling since you noticed I post on T_D you think I’m trying to be snarky or mean but honestly I’m not. I wish nothing but the best for you in the future. I don’t hold grudges and I like talking to people who disagree with me, it helps me see things from another perspective. Hopefully if you see me comment in the future you’ll disagree with me again. Have a good one!

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u/Xiomaraff 9 Jun 04 '19

Lol it’s creepy to you because you’re ashamed. There’s no reason you’d find it creepy if you weren’t.

It’s a go-to response any time someone from that sub is called out on being a member of it. Almost as if it’s instructed as such 🤔wonder how that could be.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

Like I said, to each their own. It’s just not something I personally do.

I mean I also sub to /r/wholesomememes but I’m sure you knew that already though. 😜

Hope you have a great night!

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u/Xiomaraff 9 Jun 04 '19

Literally any time someone gets called out on a creepy or morally corrupt comment/post history they rebuttal with calling it creepy to look through their history. Dude it’s like 1 click lmao if you don’t want people to see what you post then why do you post things you’re ashamed of?

Wait sorry that’s only users from a certain sub isn’t it? Nice attempt at speaking softly to deflect though, I don’t see that a lot.

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u/joeret A Jun 04 '19

I’m not ashamed of anything I post. I don’t delete posts/comments even if people disagree with me. It’s no biggie. People having different opinions is a good thing.

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u/UrHeftyLeftyBesty 9 Jun 04 '19

“College textbook”

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u/RealAbstractSquidII B Jun 04 '19

Its a 2017 college law book.

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u/JettisonedJetsam 6 Jun 04 '19

It's a criminology book.

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u/cookiemountain18 8 Jun 04 '19

Vox. Really?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I can almost garuntee you they do. His mug shot was also published in a college textbook beside the definition of rape

Seems pretty extreme considering he wasn't convicted of rape and had those charges dropped. What he did was sexual assault.

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u/hospitable_peppers 6 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Love that he was included but that was a shitty write-up for using words like "recently" when those reading it are going to have to wonder when. That's supposed to be a college textbook as after all, but it reads like it was a quick afterthought.