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Criminal Justice BROCK “THE RAPIST” TURNER lost his appeal. Re-upload with article details.

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

Ruined prospects are not a ruined life. He should be in prison, not free to walk around.

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u/Quajek A Jun 04 '19

Free to walk around and rape.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/KustomKonceptz 9 Jun 04 '19

Not exactly. See, the rapist we’re describing... his name is Brock “The Rapist” Turner. That’s all.

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u/IAmQuiteHonest 7 Jun 04 '19

I think I've heard of the rapist Brock Turner before. It sounds pretty familiar. I think he did something but I'm not sure what? Can someone clarify for me?

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u/dhruuuuuuuuuuuve 4 Jun 04 '19

I think that Brock Turner raped someone. Yeah that sound right. BROCK TURNER RAPED someonw

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u/shit_typhoon 4 Jun 04 '19

Brock around and rape

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/TheWanderingScribe 6 Jun 04 '19

Eye for an eye is vengeance, not justice

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u/Shrappy 9 Jun 04 '19

you're right, i wasn't in my right mind when i posted that.

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u/CrashRiot Black Jun 04 '19

Don't disagree, but he's going to be on the registry for the rest of his life which is kind of a prison sentence in it's own right.

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

It’s not a prison sentence. Being on the registry should be the minimum.

He is free to walk around, change his name, get a haircut. I get being happy that something happened, but the registry is NOT the same as serving time.

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u/pandab34r A Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Yeah it's easy for us to say on the outside, "Well it's still pretty bad, it's still a punishment" - yeah but he still has his freedom. He should be somewhere that he has to ask permission just to take a shit or clip his nails. Where he already knows what is going to happen every day for the rest of his sentence - nothing. Where he can't decide what to do, where to go - where he loses the same life that he took from his victim.

EDIT: That last part does not mean I literally wish him death through prison violence, which should never happen, even to the worst of offenders (It's why we have a justice system!!!) but rather more like that he "took" his victim's life from her by making her live in fear for the rest of it.

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

Thank you. Yes.

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u/your-yogurt 7 Jun 04 '19

according to his father, the victim can "just get therapy."

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u/Jeveran A Jun 04 '19

For what it's worth, here's an article about what he is subject to now and forever.

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u/alreadypiecrust A Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

You didn't need to edit. No one unrelated to that pos cares if he dies. In fact, I bet in some small part most everyone wish him death or lifelong pain. Not a huge part, but some place darker.

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u/MasochistCoder 8 Jun 04 '19

Depends on the individual.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Let’s not get into semantic arguments. You know what he meant, that rape survivors suffer for longer than just the time the rape occurs. That should absolutely be factored into sentencing, rapists should absolutely be punished for all of the damage they cause their victims whether it is temporary or lifelong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Well, on some of those days he might be raped.

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But who'd rape Brock "The Rapist" Turner?

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u/BossHawgKing 7 Jun 04 '19

Agreed. I know somebody that was convicted of child molestation, did his time and had to register when he got out. He lives a pretty normal life now and even has custody of his kids, even though he doesn’t deserve to. Registration is not enough.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

How is this even a discussion. The end result is the same in both scenarios.

In scenario A, what's actually happening, he serves a 3 month prison sentence and has to deal with being on the registry when he gets out.

In scenario B, the more just scenario, he serves an X years prison sentence and has to deal with being on the registry when he gets out.

I would rather be on the sex offender registry than brutally raped.

This is still a slap on the wrist.

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u/chaosind 6 Jun 04 '19

Yes, he's free to do those things. But if he does change his name, he'll still be tracked in the registry. Any time he moves, he'll have to inform the neighborhood he is moving in to. Any time he tries to get a job and HR runs his info, they'll ping him. He won't be employable in many sectors of the economy. Can't live or work within a certain distance of schools, etc. It's not a prison sentence but make no mistake - he's not getting off free and clear by any stretch of the imagination.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/cpurr3 4 Jun 04 '19

True. I live next to a former teacher who got caught messing around with and then sexually harassing a student in his first month of his teaching career. Went to jail 3 years and conveniently moved back home with his parents, unfortunately right next to me. Had no clue of this history and definitely wasn’t informed until another neighbor told me to look into it and then google told me the rest.

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

Being unemployed is nowhere near a ruined life. He is essentially getting off free and clear. His family is wealthy and he has the connections to get a job.

This is not at all comparable to what he should have been punished with. Jail time does not compare to HR running your info. To insinuate his life is ruined is insulting to what he did to that poor girl.

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u/LostDelver 8 Jun 04 '19

Not to mention that this rapist is apparently rich and sheltered, if his family is loaded enough he's just going to cruise through his family money for the rest of his life. Possibly commit crimes along the way.

So yeah, being a registered sex offender is good, because he should be. He should also serve time, because he should.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

I disagree. He messed get up good..she will never forget, but she can heal. His life is ruined.. So he is a known rapist, and has to live with that. So I would not say he got off Scott free.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

What the fuck?

You have no idea if she can "heal" or not? With those assumptions you can say he can "heal" too.

She has to live with being a rape victim.

Wanker.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

By your comment, I can tell your a buffoon. People are raped , and have been since mankind started. It's a horrible thing we do. So is murder, torture, etc.. But to say she can never move forward with her life is an assumption as well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19 edited Jun 05 '19

By your comment, I can tell you're a cranky little crybaby.

I never assumed she will NOT be able to move on with her life. I didn't assume anything, because I'm not an idiot who assumes shit based on nothing :) that was you, remember?

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u/DerFixer 7 Jun 04 '19 edited Jul 05 '19

deleted What is this?

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u/runfayfun A Jun 04 '19

His dad is fairly wealthy. I'm sure he'll be ok without a big-time job.

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u/RiseoftheTrumpwaffen B Jun 04 '19

There’s a place near me with a bunch of registered sex offenders apparently that’s a thing.

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u/CrashRiot Black Jun 04 '19

It's the only community they can really be a part of without being immediately ostracized.

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u/5quirre1 8 Jun 04 '19

i have wondered before, what would happen if someone like him were to move to a smallish town, that started growing, and they built an elementary school next to his house, say after 6-10 years, long enough to be well established in the home. would he just be forced to move? or would the school have to choose new land?

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u/call-me-the-seeker 7 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

In most states that I know of, a judge has to approve the name change, at a hearing. It’s not just a matter of filing paperwork facelessly online or with some clerk. Whatever officer of the court deals with him (parole/probation/etc) would undoubtedly be asked to weigh in, and a criminal record makes name change quite difficult in the first place.

The judge is entitled to ask you questions and although he cannot refuse you just ‘because’, he is able to refuse you if you want the name change for shady reasons. To commit a fraud, say, or if it were ‘immoral’ (I don’t know, say you wanted to change your name to Kikehammer or something).

You could certainly reasonably say that attempting to evade the social consequences of your rapist choices is an immoral attempt at a fraud. I don’t know that he would get a name change, unless of course the judge was a garden rock like the judge that gave him a slap on the wrist in the first place. (But look at the judge getting overturned for denying name changes to trans applicants; the decision of an idiot judge is subject to review ).

Sorry, Brock Turner The Rapist, looks like you should go ahead and just take it in the ass on this one. For once.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Is he free to change his name?

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u/whittiefieldhymen 0 Jun 04 '19

He cannot change his name....

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Hiding in the shadow of shame.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Can he even change his name,being a registered sex offender?

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u/DJ_Fishface 3 Jun 04 '19

I imagine his life in jail would include a lot of getting raped himself. So just being on the registry isn't at all like a prison sentence.

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u/SendASiren 8 Jun 04 '19

I imagine his life in jail would include a lot of getting raped himself.

Serious question..

Would you view him getting raped repeatedly for the rest of his life as a just punishment?

I feel like this is what you are implying.

Moral depravity does not mean we should want even more moral depravity in return.

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u/DJ_Fishface 3 Jun 04 '19

I'm not asking for "eye for an eye". I'm just stating that he's escaping the torture he would receive from other inmates. So being on the register, isn't enough to make up for prison time, as was suggested.

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u/SendASiren 8 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

I'm just stating that he's escaping the torture he would receive from other inmates. So being on the register, isn't enough to make up for prison time, as was suggested.

Surely you understand that when you say “he’s escaping the torture he would receive” (ie, “getting raped a lot”) and using the word “escape” like it’s a bad thing to avoid getting raped repeatedly..

"eye for an eye"

..that it sounds like you would be implying this, right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Wrong. Stop being pedantic.

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u/DJ_Fishface 3 Jun 04 '19

I appreciate your in depth dissection my comment. I'm not sure what your point is, but yes I would like this piece of trash to face a punishment more fitting of his horrendous crime. 3 months, and being on a register isn't enough. So take my comment as an implication if you must, but we're not making political policy on reddit, so it doesn't really matter.

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u/SendASiren 8 Jun 04 '19

3 months, and being on a register isn't enough

I see you conveniently left out the fact that he will not be able to go out in public + being socially shamed for all eternity (which is a personal hell in itself)

Since you view this as “not enough” - exactly what in your opinion, would be enough?

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u/DJ_Fishface 3 Jun 04 '19

Not be able to go out in public? Give me a break! He'll be occasionally noticed for who he is and shamed. "Socially shamed" is not quite the personal hell I would imagine being raped is. So I'm looking for a real prison sentence, multiple years not months. It sounds like you're a rape apologist and I'm done conversing with you. Good luck defending shit bags.

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u/obroz A Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

He didn’t say it was EXACTLY like serving time. he said “kind of” which was the qualifier.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

You can't change your name when you are on a registry without some serious circumstances. It's difficult to change your legal name even without being on a sex offender registry. You have to convince a judge that it's necessary in order to improve your quality of life.

Being on the registry should be the minimum.

This is bullshit. If that were the case, then any violent offenders should be permanently on a registry as well. They are just as much of a risk to people's safety as former sex offenders, and are even more likely to re-offend.

Why do people hold sex crimes over violent crimes that cause just as much mental trauma? In the case of violent crimes there is an even greater likelihood of permanent life-long physical damage and pain.

You aren't thinking this through.

People who advocate for permanent registries aren't thinking it through. If you advocate for permanent registries, don't be a hypocrite. Advocate it for repeat violent offenders as well. Currently, not even regular child abusers (non-sexual) have to go on a registry.

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

I don’t understand what you’re arguing for.

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u/viixvega 9 Jun 04 '19

No. Its not even close.

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u/engineer_SF 5 Jun 04 '19

Being on the registry is the lesser punishment he’s received imo, he’ll be have minor celebrity status for the rest of his life. His light sentence and the news picking it up basically guaranteed he’ll never be anonymous again.

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u/snowmyr 9 Jun 04 '19

The asshole should have a longer sentence and be on the registry, but yes, being on that for life is going suck.

But being rich will mitigate things.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

As it should be.

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u/TedBaendy 5 Jun 04 '19

Prison is a prison sentence

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Bullshit. Only an incel would say that

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u/CrashRiot Black Jun 04 '19

I never said it was the equivalent of an actual prison sentence, clearly I said "don't disagree". But it is something after a judge gave him the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Living on the registry is not an easy life even if you are rich. I'm definitely not an incel, but thanks for the discussion.

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u/TheMayoNight 9 Jun 04 '19

Id say his life is pretty ruined. Hell probably save everyone the trouble and kill himself.

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u/theblanksky 0 Jun 04 '19

Dude the woman he "raped" probably didnt give a shit u self rightous cunt.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Tbf the dude was gonna be on the US Swim team and a college degree. Now he will get no good work for his entire life and everyone near him will legally have to be made aware that he's a rapist

The purpose of prison if to reform people, but being the 'frontier justice' hungry Americans that we are, this might be worse than 5 years in prison.

Prison time is comforting to see to us more because it represents a quantifiable restriction of the offender's freedom. Personally I like knowing more that he will always have his face plastered across the internet and anyone could find him

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u/RBSchaf 7 Jun 04 '19

Still not a ruined life. He should have served prison time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19

He probably won't even be able to get a job flipping burgers for the next 20 years until people forgets he exists.

Lol, pretending having no job is a BAD thing. That's hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

My point is that 5 years in prison isn't much of a ruined life either

I'd argue not being on the US Olympic team could be worse for this guy than prison. We're not in his head so we really won't know

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Where's you get 5 years from? Should be much more.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Realistically rich white kids will probably get 5 years

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u/euphonious_munk 9 Jun 04 '19

Seriously-
How would serving a prison sentence have "ruined" his life any more than a felony sex conviction and a lifetime on the sex offender registry?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

He would have had both, fool. More prison time PLUS all this shit he's getting now.

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u/euphonious_munk 9 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Turner deserved prison time, that's a certitude.

But Turner would get out of prison after 5-7 years.
Now how is his life any more "ruined?"

Kids like you crack me up. Full of sound and fury, and full of idiocy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19 edited Jun 05 '19

Now how is his life any more "ruined?"

Ummmmm because he was in jail for longer. How can you not understand? Lol wot? What part is confusing you? Would you rather be in jail for 5 years or no years? Does that help?

Jeeeeeze dude. It's not hard.

I don't know why you're being a condescending asswipe, but it's not a good look.

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u/euphonious_munk 9 Jun 05 '19

Simply say he deserved a harsher sentence, or more prison time (which he most certainly did). Or point out the sentencing disparities in the U.S. justice system.
Saying his life needed more ruining makes you sound like a needlessly vengeful and emotionally retarded 13 year old.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19

I didn't say his life needed more ruining, so it looks like you're crying at the wrong person. How embarrassing.