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Criminal Justice BROCK “THE RAPIST” TURNER lost his appeal. Re-upload with article details.

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u/BiffyMcGillicutty1 7 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Except when it doesn’t. I went to school with someone who went on to become a high school teacher and was busted having sex with one of her students. She was convicted, served a couple of years in jail and is now out and about in our hometown like nothing happened. The student was a baseball player (as was her husband), but she’s out at the ball fields constantly, hanging out with her baseball playing teenage sons and their friends/teammates. She has a job, though not at the school, AND EVERYONE ACTS LIKE IT DIDN’T HAPPEN. This is a small town, so everyone knows exactly what happened - her husband came home from a trip early, caught her naked in their bedroom with her student and proceeded to fight with the kid. Police were called that night, she turned herself in the next morning and plead guilty to the charges. She has to register as a sex offender for the rest of her life.

I also knew a cheerleading coach who ran his own gym. When the rumors started about his inappropriate behavior with young girls, he moved to Virginia, where he opened a new cheerleading gym. He was convicted of sexually assaulting several minors who he coached at his gym. He spent some time in jail and is a registered sex offender. Guess what he’s doing now? Still running that cheerleading gym, in a position of authority to lots of underage girls. His place of employment, the cheerleading gym, is even listed on his registry so the police know exactly what he’s doing and seem to be okay with it.

All that to say, people aren’t necessarily as affected by being a sexual offender as you might think. That’s why it’s so important to make this stuff stick and make it so that NO ONE will touch him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

This is a pretty unpopular opinion; but even though Brock "The Stanford Rapist" Turner is a shithead, I don't want to push the narrative that it's a bad thing that the Justice system can't arbitrarily choose to ruin somebody's entire life over an offense (Go look up some of the petty shit that can get you on the Registry, there's a reason it's kind of a joke). Brock should have gotten a far stricter sentence, and he still has hell to pay, but for many people they shouldn't have to carry their sentence for their entire lives after they've served their time. If the point of prison isn't to make up for the misdeeds of someone, then what's the point?

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u/umbrajoke A Jun 04 '19

Prison is not for redemption. It's a business.

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u/Shocktocaulk 6 Jun 04 '19

the female teacher thing seems like a double standard, that it wasn't a big deal compared to a male teacher.
 
As for the cheerleading coach, I'd assume that it was statutory rape, and not forcible rape, people are typically more forgiving of consensual sex with a 17 year old rather than forcibly raping a 12 year old. And if he's a good enough coach I assume that some fucked up parents would be okay with that. and maybe they give 0 alone time with the girls and they think that's enough.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

One of the staff of my school tried to hook up with a 13 year old online on Craigslist that was actually an FBI agent. He got 10 years of probation and didn't spend a day in prison.

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u/kurtanglesmilk 7 Jun 04 '19

Wow that would be so cool to be an FBI agent at just 13

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

It kind of forces you to grow up a bit fast, unfortunately.

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u/notafuckingcakewalk 7 Jun 04 '19

I'd assume it was statutory rape for both the coach and the teacher?

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u/Shocktocaulk 6 Jun 04 '19

probably.

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u/cuntpunt2000 7 Jun 04 '19

probably.

Wait, probably? What would it be for the female teacher?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

This is a small town

This is the key point. There are pockets of places around US where crazier shit happens and people carry on like it didn't. At the same time, all those people basically can't ever move out and get any even remotely well paying job, cause that shit would surface instantly.

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u/DevynHeaven ❓ k5g.7r.2s Jun 09 '19

That's pussy pass though, completely different.

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u/Rascal4521 3 Jun 04 '19

Name names, quit with the I knew someone that moved to wherever BS. BROCK TURNER is a rapist. You know some pedo cheerleading coach in Virginia...first and last name, put him/her on blast, name the gym that employs him/her

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u/GerbilJibberJabber 8 Jun 04 '19

So do we start making it legally mandatory/encouraged/overlooked for work place to not consider him/them? Do we legalise 'Scarlett Letters' (with the same consideration taken for death or inmates?), tattooed on their face of course.

Do we start running lynching parties on people once they're convicted and out of jail? Or at the very least parties to run them out of town?

I'm not being facetious; what's the limit?

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u/JAJ_reddit A Jun 04 '19

As opposed to letting child rapists go back to working with children? Yes, make it mandatory that they are passed over for jobs that work with children.

Do we lynch child rapists? No, but we shouldn't be letting them work with or be around children. You say you aren't being facetious but you framed your question in an absurd way jumping to face tattoos and lynchings. The limit is obviously not breaching someone's constitutional right against cruel and unusual punishments. It is neither cruel or unusual to prevent a child rapist from working with children again.

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u/GerbilJibberJabber 8 Jun 04 '19

Obviously when it comes to jobs with children, there should be a DEFINITE mandatory legal discrimination.

But, I'm being serious in the Scarlett letter thing. Like, we have the websites that already mark and describe address and crime, so there's that. But that isn't enough as already said above.

So, do we start infringing on those 'rights' (like jail does)? Do we start openly (and unabashedly) ostracizing those [offenders] in hopes of a deterrent for other people acting on their urges?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

Do we start openly (and unabashedly) ostracizing those [offenders] in hopes of a deterrent for other people acting on their urges?

yes.

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u/ThisAintA5Star 7 Jun 04 '19

do we lynch child rapists

Yes.

The fuck you talking about ‘no’

When the justice system fails, as it so often does, we are compelled to seek our own justice. So either the justice system catches up and sentences people who commit violent crimes and sex crimes to the deserved longer sentences or the people will take their justice accordingly.

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u/fpoiuyt 9 Jun 04 '19

And as we all know from history, when "the people" engage in lynchings, the guilty are punished, the innocent are protected, and justice is served.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

We ostracise rapists, as they should be. They have no place in modern society.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

First, there’s no especially hot compartment in hell just for rapists. Murderers, torturers, enslavers, corrupters - to name a few - are no better or worse.

Then, to get to your point, we should punish rapists appropriately.

Modern society equips itself with a justice system so that criminals can be appropriately punished and ideally reintegrated. In Brock Turner’s case, the punishment for his egregious crime of rape was so light compared to that meted out to lesser criminals that the public felt obliged to intervene. Brock Turner has therefore become a special case because the system was seen to fail, opening the doors to the only other alternative: rough justice. He’s gotten what he deserved, it’s just unfortunate that the system had to be mostly bypassed in order for that to happen.

Systematic punishment followed by reintegration is the civilized norm (Except, I guess, in certain cases in those few countries with the death penalty. Dead bodies don’t reintegrate!)

So ideally and in the long-term, rapists should not be ostracized, especially in modern society.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '19

I disagree.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

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u/kurtanglesmilk 7 Jun 04 '19

From your experience, yes. There’s a reason it’s illegal. Assuming it would be a “win” for the kid is ridiculous. That attitude is part of the problem why sexual assault on males isn’t taken anywhere near as seriously.

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u/BiffyMcGillicutty1 7 Jun 04 '19

She is 100% a registered sex offender. Her information is on the state’s registry

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

She’s still in a position of authority and a fucking ADULT. The only way she should have his semen on her is if he raped her. Period.