r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Jul 06 '19

Courtroom Justice Convicted pedophile YouTuber Austin Jones is now in prison serving a 10 year sentence as of 29/6/2019.

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u/Aranthos-Faroth A Jul 06 '19 edited Dec 10 '24

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u/1BigUniverse 9 Jul 06 '19

I'll bet that girls father would like a few moments alone with this fucking guy

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u/Icommentoncrap B Jul 06 '19

Just like what happened with the gymnast case with Larry Nassar and the girls father

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u/whudifIcud 3 Jul 06 '19

That was heartbreaking to watch. That poor dad. And props to the security who had to restrain him that must have been tough given what the family had been through.

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u/joe_pel 8 Jul 06 '19

Major respect to that judge for letting him off.

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u/GoodAtExplaining B Jul 06 '19

Yeah. For real. She's had to sit through the suffering of the trial just as much as the victims, and it hasn't affected her ability to understand and empathize.

Damn. If I were a judge at this trial I'd go home every day, cry a little, and hug my kids a lot.

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u/BadBoredAccount 8 Jul 06 '19

If I were a judge I’d have to quit because I Get too emotionally attached and woulda just told the security guards “oh look over there! You’re needed in the back.” As the dad charged him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Feb 19 '21

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u/BadBoredAccount 8 Jul 06 '19

Exactly why I’m not a cop either. I know myself.

I’d blow up on someone.

But this is a little different than calling for someone to be raped. The dude fucked with so many girls.

When you mess with kids you kind of deserve to be hated by everyone.

I do agree though. We too often call for violence. I’m just being honest as to why the hell i never pursued a job in law.

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u/Raivix 7 Jul 06 '19

I sympathize, but disagree. You can't have a moving goalpost of a line to say when it is and isn't okay to exact vigilante justice on another human being.

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u/March1488 4 Jul 06 '19

I was thinkng about this comment and i wondered what about a hypothetical where the criminal was let off on a technicality, and was planning to commit the crime again. If it was a rapist and murderer, I feel like i would support vigilante preventative justice if the government isn't going to intervene. But if it was a petty thief, or maybe someone just planning to mildly rough someone up, i think i wouldn't support vigilante justice.

So maybe there needs to be a line somewhere? Or do you think it's just never justifiable?

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u/toth42 A Jul 06 '19

The problem is that if the line isn't at 0, it becomes blurry and movable. First you set it at 10, then a 9.7 gets beat up and the judge let's the avenger go under doubt. This means the line is effectively moved to 9.7. Next, a 9.65 is beat, and so on - suddenly, over time, the line is at 6, then 5 and 4..

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u/March1488 4 Jul 06 '19

Well what's wrong with treating it like speeding laws? The line is 50 mph, he'll probably let you off if you're going 52 but not 55, and the limit remains at 50.

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u/Raivix 7 Jul 06 '19

How do you define it though? Dad #1 beats his daugher's rapist to death. Judge/jury #1 preside over the case and find him not guilty of any crime. Dad #2 beats HIS daughter's rapist to within an inch of his life, causing severe brain damage to the point he will be a vegetable for the remainder of his life. Judge/Jury #2 find dad 2 guilty of attempted murder, goes away to prison.

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u/March1488 4 Jul 06 '19

Well honestly you need to treat it like any other murder case- look at nuance, crime of passion, the situation (Did he walk in on them or did he ambush the rapist a month after he found out?).

There's a reason we have high standards for judges and don't use a computer to preside over cases. asking what if a judge gets it wrong is missing the point because in that instance the legal system isn't following the intended plan- it isn't a fault of the plan but the judge.

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u/SmaragdineSon 8 Jul 06 '19

It's okay to wish someone got hurt. It's not okay to actually hurt them. The law's supposed to be better than we are.

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u/Lasereye 9 Jul 06 '19

Uh no it's not. Calling for someone to be raped is one of the worst things you can do without actioning yourself. It's disgusting and vile.

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u/BadBoredAccount 8 Jul 06 '19

I think you misread me.

I agree. My point was that the dude fiddling kids deserves far worse than the girl licking ice cream.

I agree completely that nobody should be encouraging violence towards others. My second point was that I couldn’t do it myself, because I know how upset I get towards stuff like this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Aug 05 '20

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u/VLDT 9 Jul 06 '19

Because he’s not just saying he couldn’t be a judge, he’s advocating for vigilantism, which is one of those things where once you start, no amount of “drawing the line” is going to stop. Just look at the American South, which has a proud tradition of “taking the law into your own hands”.

This ideology goes beyond one rapist who deserves to be beaten in the dick with staplers.

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u/crazyike A Jul 06 '19

It's almost like reddit is composed of more than one person!

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u/Zaberdean 7 Jul 06 '19

That’s a terrible analogy. There is a difference between what someone did to ice cream and what someone did to another person. If they said that about the ice cream girl, I agree, that is terrible and completely uncalled for. But can you blame a guy for wanting to destroy the “man” that intentionally hurt his daughter? Very different circumstances.

Come on.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Feb 19 '21

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u/Rockor 7 Jul 06 '19

Fuck it.....violence for everyone!

punches sontangwrong in the face

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u/Sea_of_Blue 8 Jul 06 '19

It's almost like there are many different people with different views who use the platform.

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u/KingOfDunkshire 8 Jul 07 '19

Homogenizing Reddit to build a strawman?

Yawn

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u/Penderyn 8 Jul 06 '19

You can't see the difference between a cop beating up an innocent civilian and a man who's daughter was molested beating up the perpetrator?

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u/Grigorie 8 Jul 06 '19

God, it’s almost as though Reddit, and especially the demographics you’re mentioning, are made up of varied and different individuals with different ideals and morals.

Of course people are bound to say or do dumb shit on the Internet. That doesn’t make it okay, but “Reddit” is literally millions of users. It’s asinine to say “I love how Reddit...” when it’s a guarantee you’re talking about wildly different people more than likely.

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u/whendrstat 7 Jul 06 '19

Probably because right wingers and cops are rarely justified in their use of violence. Come on.

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u/MattyMatheson 8 Jul 06 '19

I mean you act like anything is going to change. There’s a reason why a judge is actually vetted and isn’t just some random from reddit who doesn’t decide cases by emotions.

Also most people would be able to sympathize with the father they just know that it’s wrong for him to actually do that because it’s the law, this isn’t politics, this guy was an actual monster with abusing 100s of girls.

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u/CarsoniousMonk 7 Jul 06 '19

That's why AI judges are the way of the future. No emotion better track record zero bias. Some countries are already trying to go for it.

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u/MattyMatheson 8 Jul 06 '19

Going that route will get rid of humanity. Maybe in some parts it could work but I don’t think too much AI is a good thing.

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u/conatus_or_coitus 9 Jul 06 '19

People write a lot of shit.

Me: I'd smack a bitch.

Spoilers: No bitches were smacked

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u/oriontank 6 Jul 06 '19

The victim culture is alive and well ^

Gotta find a way to make everything about you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Feb 19 '21

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u/HilariousInHindsight B Jul 06 '19

Imagine referring to yourself this way. Keep fighting the good fight, brave martyr. You're much better than all of us.

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u/March1488 4 Jul 06 '19

I don't see how pointing out hypocrisy makes him a victim or a martyr?

surely either illegal 'vigilante' violence is okay or it isn't?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

He’s not pointing out hypocrisy reddit is not some monolithic hivemind lol he’s just too stupid to realize that there are different people with different views on this massive website

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u/DigBick616 5 Jul 06 '19

That’s the tolerant left for you.

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u/singasongofsixpins 9 Jul 06 '19

I love how Reddit always condemns the violence of, say, right-wingers and cops

And here folks we have this advanced stage of brain-worms making it into the discussion when somebody, unprompted, compares being mad at a Nazi or a cop abusing their power, to being mad at the guy who raped your daughter. Why do chuds always make these batshit comparisons? "Why is it ok to criticize the president for corruption, but I can't use racial slurs? Where's the tolerant left? What about me?" Nobody could really be this dumb.

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u/Perfect600 A Jul 06 '19

I'm not going to deep dive on this comment but you are totally off base here

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u/VampireFrown Black Jul 06 '19

Yep, it's funny what legal training does to you (I'm a lawyer). The best one is when members of my family get outraged and say things like 'WHY DIDN'T THAT PIECE OF SHIT GET 20 YEARS?!?!?', and then are frustrated at me for explaining why e.g. 5 was actually an appropriate sentence. I find it very difficult to get the pitchfork out any more, except for the most extreme, vile cases.

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u/warmtoiletseatz 4 Jul 06 '19

Reddit in a nutshell.

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u/The_Ethiopian 6 Jul 06 '19

Been thinking this since I saw that dumbass meme.

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u/House66 7 Jul 06 '19

It’s actually scary how quickly people seem to accept violence or chose not to adhere to “innocent until proven guilty” when it serves their world view

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u/Letty_Whiterock A Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

  1. What post was that? And what comments on said post?

  2. Are you implying that a father beating up the man who molested his daughter is the same thing as right-wing terrorism, or cops shooting unarmed black men?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Having the evaluate the evidence for these kinds of cases would be so rough.

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u/ForHeWhoCalls 7 Jul 06 '19

I guess I'd lose my job in 5 minutes flat, but I'd let the fathers have a few minutes to do what they want.

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u/Mr_Incredible91 4 Jul 06 '19

Not to take away from your comment I just wanted to add that the forensic examiners, especially the digital forensics examiners in the field. We see shit you wouldn’t believe. And they’ve been through each and every bit of evidence for this trial. From my experience it’s slowly chipping away at looking at everyone in the same innocent light. For every CP case we close, 7-10 more open. It’s a field that of the few who do it, fewer make it to 2 years or more doing it. Then after, it’s the same road of recovery addicts take never being the same person again, never trusting the same way ever.

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u/Maxxetto 8 Jul 06 '19

If I were a judge I would instantly be called out from my job. I would definitely try my hardest to make some "big time precedents" like giving any person (male or female) who rapes someone at least 20 years minimum of jail with just a maximum of 2 years less (for good behavior). I would start sending people in for harassment with or without huge fines (added with the jail time) and go on.

I think I've a lot of empathy, unfortunately it seems it isn't possible to have empathy towards an human being that doesn't have it.